So my office is filled with people from MA h: Guess what they're doing? h:

 

My problem with a republican run govt. is that I do not side with alot of the OTHER ISSUES at stake. Things like abortion, homosexual/gay/lesbian rights, and most importantly stem cell research. These are the main resonas why I SUPPORT A DEMOCRATIC GOVT.

I wrote a whole bunch more to add to the thread about the war on terror and the US involvment in Iraq, but I'd rather not get into it. Though the basic idea is that I agreed with the decision to go into Iraq, and how I feel that no matter who is saying what that Iraq needs to be resolved regardless of who's in charge, and since none of the outlooks can be seen as positive that the whole idea of choosing a cantidate on that issue alone is a completely moot point.

 

laughing at us that are still here?

 

Thanks man... I'm gay and I by no means, whatsoever, want to get married. I do think it's hippocritical to say that drive through weddings and a >50% divorce rate are considered upholding the sanctity of marriage... I just want the same right as everyone else to be able to get all the shit when i get tired of my other half and have him knocked off... We don't deserve equal human rights, but a man and a woman can live with each other for a period of time and be considered "commonlaw", but i guess that varies from state to state? anyway, hope you get the point... Also, what's the deal with people getting all over each other in public, but if two people of the same sex do it, it incites hate crimes and shit? (I think PDA is trashy in most cases, gay or str8)

 

My major reason why I don't associate with conservative republicans is the discrimination they hold to the gay culture...the gov't (federal and state) should give equal rights to couples no matter the gender. I'm very upset b/c our debt is out of control and the past 2 years they've been pressing these discrimination laws instead of fixing the real problems. They knew the public was pissed and they wanted to pass the laws to satiate the groups that helped get them elected and donated money to the campaign.

 

dosent this belong in the ontopic area?

 

I miss classic conservatives.

Ones that don't spend money like drunken sailors. Especially money that's not actually there.
That would like to keep the government the hell out of our personal lives.
The ones that respect ALL points of the constitution/bill of rights, not just the 2nd ammendment. The rest are very important. I feel that a lot in the current (as of this minute) government like to ignore the 1st, 4th, 6th, 8th, 9th, and 10th ammendments.
Ones that respect, and encourage, the seperation of the branches of government, and the seperation of church and state.
Were for CONSERVING the natural resources we have in this nation.
Real family values, regardless of how the family is constructed.

The economics of social services will always be debated and I see both sides, but if the conservatives were like what I stated above, I'd define myself as a conservative. But, Libertarians tend to be too batshit crazy (same with the green party), the republicans are none of the above, and the closest party have to that now is the Dems.

I've been smiling all day. I know the next two years will be a political gridlock, especially with the President's veto power, but I'd prefer no direction to a bad direction.

 

I wasn't around here for the '00 elections, but I remember when Bush declared war, and the '04 elections, all the democrats including myself came out of the woodwork. Now there's a bit of turnabout and it looks like most of the people on here reinforcing their own beliefs are the ones who lost this particular election.

The following is all a bunch of my typical acerbic limousine liberal blather, so if you don't like it don't bother to try and rebut me because playing the I'm-more-subjectively-correct-about-this-subjective-issue-than-you game is just fucking lame.

If it makes you happy, nearly every state that had a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage on the ballot, the referendum passed. Personally, I don't give a shit about gay people getting married or not, I'm not all up in arms that they need more rights, but damn if I'll agree with using state or federal constitutional amendments to ban things.

Wisconsin also had a resolution to bring back the death penalty that passed by a pretty healthy margin, which honestly I found a bit surprising. Then again not so much, since this has become much more of a swing state since the time when the death penalty was taken off the books.

I'm happy, because with the overwhelming majority in the House and the very slim one in the Senate, there's enough clout to introduce left-leaning policy that Dubya won't necessarily veto. I'm also happy to be rid of that scumbag Rumsfeld, who had the arrogance to on his way out say that his only regret was that the public was too shortsighted to see how exemplary this administration's handling of Iraq really was. What a cocksucker.

But the past 6 years have certainly fucked things up plenty in my opinion. The Supreme Court is still stacked way to the right thanks to you assholes having control of the presidency and congress. There's a huge setback with the aforementioned using of state constitutions to ban something. I don't care if there was a majority, "the people have spoken" and thusandsuch, sometimes the people are damned stupid.

There really was no shift to the left in the country, it's still a bunch of ignorant, sensationalist, jingoistic, isolationist, me-first, fuck the other guy, pieces of shit. The shift was that people got sick enough of the Iraq situation that they decided to clean house. I can only hope that the democrats take the opportunity to make real improvements without repeating the tax and spend policies from the last time they had any sort of majority, and maaaaybe the voting public will like what they see enough to keep the current balance around.

And of course, we still have the same moron in the driver's seat.

Lastly...Russ Feingold for president in '08 because he's the motherfucking MAN.

 

Good choice!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russ_Feingold

This dude would have my vote. I honestly didn't associate him with his own Campaign Reform Act. Nice work. He's got lots of other positives.

Other than his stance on capitol punishment and multiple divorces I agree with nearly everything he stands for.

Oh, and I had to look up jingoistic. Good word Booty