Donald Rumsfeld steps down.
A good president would. Truthfulness is what people want not a liar who tries to cover things up. He could've said something like "Time will tell, if the Democrats win then good for them" but no, instead he decided to be all cocky and stubborn by insisting all along that Republicans will win even though he knows they won't. It's the same thing with the Iraq war. He's been saying all along we will win but I think he knows that we won't. It's already lasted longer than WWII, the violence is getting worse and he still says we will win.

WHAT!?! longer than ww2? ww2 was 6 years long....iraq war started in 03...thats three years. and you cant count desert storm, because there was over a 10 year gap of direct action between the us and iraq. as well as a reseloution to the actions in early 90's. another thing, i for one wouldnt want a president who admits defeat before it happens. its one thing to tell it how it is. but how would you feel as a soldier if u saw in the news that the president came out today and said well looks like we are gonna lose, its not over by a longshot but we are def gonna lose. yea great morale booster. of course hes gonna saw we will win. the minute you admit defeat, you are by default defeated.
dude we started involvement in WWII in 1939...we werent directly fighting until '41. but we def had chosen sides in '39 and were doing everything except pulling the trigger.
only reason we werent involved sooner was because hitler was smart enough not to come after us until he had dealt with the UK, unfortently his table was moved forward because japan decided to provoke us.
and for the record u said its lasted longer than WWII not we were directly involved longer
only reason we werent involved sooner was because hitler was smart enough not to come after us until he had dealt with the UK, unfortently his table was moved forward because japan decided to provoke us.
and for the record u said its lasted longer than WWII not we were directly involved longer
dude we started involvement in WWII in 1939...we werent directly fighting until '41. but we def had chosen sides in '39 and were doing everything except pulling the trigger.
only reason we werent involved sooner was because hitler was smart enough not to come after us until he had dealt with the UK, unfortently his table was moved forward because japan decided to provoke us.
only reason we werent involved sooner was because hitler was smart enough not to come after us until he had dealt with the UK, unfortently his table was moved forward because japan decided to provoke us.
So whats your point here and how does it relate to the discussion?
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dude we started involvement in WWII in 1939...we werent directly fighting until '41. but we def had chosen sides in '39 and were doing everything except pulling the trigger.
only reason we werent involved sooner was because hitler was smart enough not to come after us until he had dealt with the UK, unfortently his table was moved forward because japan decided to provoke us.
only reason we werent involved sooner was because hitler was smart enough not to come after us until he had dealt with the UK, unfortently his table was moved forward because japan decided to provoke us.
2004= 12 months
2005= 12 months
Jan '06 to November 8, 2006 = 10 months, 8 days
43 months 19 days. 3 years, 7 months, 19 days. I did miss a month in there, but not two. Let's split the difference.
he stated that this iraq war is longer than wwII...
hitler declared war in 1939, treaties were signed in 1945...six years
iraq war just shy of 4.
thats my only point
we also had no problems bombing the hell out of anything in our path. collateral damage? yes, please. did you forget about little boy and fat man?
oh, how about the little fact that there were over 24 MILLION military deaths, and over 32 MILLION civilian deaths (excluding holocaust victims)?
in iraq, however, we have to pussyfoot around everything lest we feel the mighty wrath from everyone opposed to this war. and the casualties? a drop in the bucket compared to WW2.
in other words, stop comparing apples and oranges.
oh, how about the little fact that there were over 24 MILLION military deaths, and over 32 MILLION civilian deaths (excluding holocaust victims)?
in iraq, however, we have to pussyfoot around everything lest we feel the mighty wrath from everyone opposed to this war. and the casualties? a drop in the bucket compared to WW2.
in other words, stop comparing apples and oranges.
actually we didn't declare war on germany until hitler declared war on us 3 days after pearl harbor...for no apparent reason. No one knows exactly why he did it, but he could have avoided it and we may have never landed troops in Europe or waited longer than we did to.
oh we would have landed in troops in europe all right...because hitler would not have stopped with europe.


