Originally Posted by rebeld

WHAT!?! longer than ww2? ww2 was 6 years long....iraq war started in 03...thats three years. and you cant count desert storm, because there was over a 10 year gap of direct action between the us and iraq. as well as a reseloution to the actions in early 90's. another thing, i for one wouldnt want a president who admits defeat before it happens. its one thing to tell it how it is. but how would you feel as a soldier if u saw in the news that the president came out today and said well looks like we are gonna lose, its not over by a longshot but we are def gonna lose. yea great morale booster. of course hes gonna saw we will win. the minute you admit defeat, you are by default defeated.