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Old Jan 17, 2003 | 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by seth90dx
It was a ZC as in Jspec DOHC ZC.... Not minni me and I have never heard of anyone els doin it... Lot of work involved in that one der!

Why do I like H and K? Because they arent "B" ass motors... Im sick of "B" Ide rather have a "D" or a "H" <---- for damn sure.
Ok let me get this straight,your friend took a DOHC ZC from japan (non vtec D series family) and swapped either a H,K,or a SOHC vtec head onto it right,because he definitly didn't use a Bseries,right?Now the crack pipe is really cooking.For one thing NONE of this heads is going to come anywhere close to fitting that block.The absolute closest would be a B series vtec,next the K series or H series.I don't even want to go into why a SOHC won't work.So which head and block did he have completely reworked for $450?Or are you trying to say that he went in and rebuilt the head to accomodate vtec function?Things like this you really want to be very clear about.
No matter what though the fact is that it was a waste of time and money for such a novel concept as being "original" to wind up below what would have been a cheap and easy swap.But hey nowadays it is trendy to not be trendy,so let everyone waste their time,I'll stick with the TRIED and TRUE track proven alternatives to stock motors.
Old Jan 17, 2003 | 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by seth90dx
I didnt say my frend used a "B" sereies head for starters, I said he MADE the ZC VTEC..... By having a machinist rework the head. It only cost him $450 to have them convert the head to a vtec one... Jesus
LISTEN! He had the DOHC ZC HEAD MACHINED and MADE the ZC head VTEC..... Godamn, read the **** you fawking tards.
Old Jan 17, 2003 | 05:47 PM
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ZC is also NOT a stock motor... A guy I met at the sac drag strip was running 13.9-14.2 on slicks with a ZC that had I/H/E and some mild cams... Thats not track proven? Any way quit *****en, it aint you money that got "waisted" to avoid trendy trendyness... Im goin for I/H/E STR Drag Manifold JE or SRP hi comp pistons darton sleaves (not sure what cams, I might use B series VTEC ones like my frend jason has) goin with a street/strip-port/polish having the crank micro polished/balanced and knife edged... I will prolly need bigger injectors when I am done with this build, a new/highly upgraded ecu and a bottle of nos. This project will take prolly six months (all for the sake of bolting right in) But I expect to see around 200-220 WHP from this setup when I am done with it
Old Jan 17, 2003 | 08:18 PM
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Originally posted by seth90dx
ZC is also NOT a stock motor... A guy I met at the sac drag strip was running 13.9-14.2 on slicks with a ZC that had I/H/E and some mild cams... Thats not track proven? Any way quit *****en, it aint you money that got "waisted" to avoid trendy trendyness... Im goin for I/H/E STR Drag Manifold JE or SRP hi comp pistons darton sleaves (not sure what cams, I might use B series VTEC ones like my frend jason has) goin with a street/strip-port/polish having the crank micro polished/balanced and knife edged... I will prolly need bigger injectors when I am done with this build, a new/highly upgraded ecu and a bottle of nos. This project will take prolly six months (all for the sake of bolting right in) But I expect to see around 200-220 WHP from this setup when I am done with it
First you never said he had the zc made machined to work like a vtec,which by the way is going to cost alot more than $450(unless it was a "friend price")since in order for it to function it would take a complete RnR of the cams,rockers..everything.You said he made it vtec which for practical purposes tell's people he swapped the head because as I said above there is no point to machining it to do that.Don't say stupid **** like ZC is NOT a stock motor,say "My friends ZC is NOT a stock motor"because a ZC is a stock motor.If people know what your talking about it helps keep confusion down to a minimum.So what ECU are you planning on running?Also you won't need bigger injectors for that set up,the factory ones are fine,a pressure regulator would do you well.
Old Jan 17, 2003 | 08:30 PM
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Ok for starters dude... Im not trying to piss you off. But had you actualy READ read posts you would have read all of this...

Originally posted by seth90dx
yes it is as a matter of fact I have a frend who spent SKRILL converting his ZC over to vtec (yes it worked) he has B16A skunkworks stage 3 vtec cams and a "B" vtec computer... I have nothing more to say.
Originally posted by seth90dx
It was a ZC as in Jspec DOHC ZC.... Not minni me and I have never heard of anyone els doin it... Lot of work involved in that one der!
Originally posted by seth90dx
I didnt say my frend used a "B" sereies head for starters, I said he MADE the ZC VTEC..... By having a machinist rework the head. It only cost him $450 to have them convert the head to a vtec one... Jesus
Originally posted by seth90dx
LISTEN! He had the DOHC ZC HEAD MACHINED and MADE the ZC head VTEC..... Godamn, read the **** you fawking tards.
Secondly the DOHC ZC motors were never sold here in the us so it cant be a stock motor in ANY car (Unless you live in japan) there are other versons but only one has -ZC- on the block for an engine code. The price of $450 was ONLY for the mechanics work modifications were made to the head in order to accept the "B" series cams/valve train... He also did a mild P&P while he was at it. Not sure what ecu yet. I will need bigger injectors to accomadate the 12 5:1 pistons that are goin in along with a MSD system to retard the timing. Im sure I'll get a presure regulator when I get the fuel rail.
Old Jan 17, 2003 | 08:49 PM
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Sorry to burst your bubble,but that is not a vtec head.In order for vtec to work you need lines to carry oil pressure to active the vtec changeover,Just being able to fit vtec cams doesn't make it work,as a matter of fact the vtec cam is usless in there without the changeover.There is a lot more to it than the cams and springs.
The first two qoutes there don't say anything to imply that anything more was done to make it vtec other than change the head,since that is what is done when someone wants a vtec,not going and finding someone who can remachine it.The ones after that were after I said that it was bulls hit.
Stock doesn't mean USDM,stock means as it came from the factory.Your on the internet,it is a bigger world than the town you live in.The ZC is a stock motor here.
Your compression doesn't have anything to do with your injectors,the amount of fuel your putting in the cylinders does.
Old Jan 17, 2003 | 09:29 PM
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Ok dude, I hate you already... But I will take the time to explane some of the things I have learned about honda motors. When you have a VERRY HI CR <----- That stands for Compression Ratio, the motor NOT ONLY compress at a higher velocity/presure it also sucks in MORE fuel on the down stroke... Putting 12 5:1 comp pistons will do almost nothing for me without more fuel. Were are you from? I want to make sure not to got there ( Guys like myself would end up in jail over der)
Old Jan 18, 2003 | 08:07 AM
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You would end up in a morgue.Sounds like you've read just enough to sound like a true idiot.The stock injectors are good enough for the unimpressive mess of a motor your going to wind up with if you try to do it yourself,because you obviously have no clue what your talking about.Since you can't spell simple words,yet spelled compression right leds me to believe you had to look it up,so stick with it and one day you may get somewhere.

By the way,on fuel INJECTED engine your cylinders pull in air on the intake stroke(one of four strokes in a four stroke engine),while you electronic fuel INJECTION sprays the specified amount of fuel to mix with the air to be burned in the combustion stroke and and turned to energy on the power stroke before the exhaust stroke.
All B series are 240cc's

All D series are 240-cc's

92-96 H22a1's are 270cc's

97-01 H22a4's are 290cc's

As you can see,since D series and B series use the same for a 70 hp or a 185 hp and varying compression ratios you have just been own3d.If you were say,to be running a motor at around 2100cc of displacement you'd need bigger INJECTORS to spray more fuel.And probably a bigger fuel PUMP and fuel rail.
Old Jan 18, 2003 | 03:28 PM
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This post is completely retarded. I wish a mod would close this. Many things have been gona over with seth and he seems to always out due him self on his post's. Just ignore it and dont post. I my self prolly cant help but post and call this stupid **** out... Its like today i was driving on the highway and spotted a hyundia sonnatta GTR, wtf is that guy thinking..same issues here just leave it alone. Oh and by the way a b16 will not put down 130 with vtec off..prolly much less...maybe flywheel hp but not whp.
Old Jan 23, 2003 | 08:38 AM
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Originally posted by redheat86
This post is completely retarded. I wish a mod would close this.
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