if the sti didnt have all wheel drive, i think the cobra would spank it, all the sti has to do is just floor it to red line and dump the clutch and all it does is chirp the tires and it shoots out the hole, the cobra you might have to regulate the pedal and wut not, i would take the cobra over the sti anyday, just becuase of the potential they have and the sound of them things.

 

99+ GT's will run 14.2 with a beginner driver consistantly. Better drivers can break 13's. I'm not going to argue what you've seen and what you haven't seen but 13's are easy for a 99+. FMOS Racing showed a timeslip of his buddy's 99+ AUTOMATIC that ran a high 13 with the air filter cover removed.......I don't remember the thread but I saw the slip.

A low 13 sec Mustang is NOT heavily modified..........because heavily modified and on nitrus will be an 8 or 9 sec pass. What did the guy do....add weight to the block, plug the fuel line and put 2.25's in the rear? The dragstrip guys in the Mustang club I'm in are heavily modified 5.0 302 engines all which run under 10's. Nothing made offshore has beat them yet.

I believe that the Maxima made a good show with bolt-ons because those cars are pretty quick.

 

Well, we'll see, one of my best friends just bought a 2002 GT (Bullitt rims, big scoop) Auto, and to date we have installed a cold air intake with a K&N and we made the hood scoop functional. He just graduated from the police academy so after christmas he will take his first decent check and buy the magnaflow cat back, then the magnaflow X-Pipe, then cats (or no cats), then headers (which I have heard won't add much and are a pain ti install). I want him to run it now so we can sort of get a base line. As for my coupe, well, I have some serious traction issues but I just bought some new toyo's so they should do much better than the crappy BFG Euro's I had on before. I know I should be in the 12's but I just have not been able to do it. I even let a friend drive her a few runs just to rule out driver error. He drives an 12 second hatch and his best in my coupe was a 13.3 somthing. Eventually I will get a set of slicks but we'll see what happens with the new tires, head gasket (lower compression). I dynoed at 270+ Hp to the wheels after the car was tuned the first time. I need to go back to the dyno and get my car retuned after the head gasket replacement. Oh, and my friends low 11 second 5.0 has lifted the wheels one or twice. He is about to break into the tens after his supercharger install is done.

 

lol, which "slow" cars were these? cause =and idiot boy that disagreed wit me were talkin about f-bodies. and i guarentee that if an f-body lifts its wheels than it is a fast car no if ands or buts about it.

 

WTF are you smoking, buddy? Bolt on 88-92 5.0's will STOMP me. That means mid 12's if you didn't read my sig. Where do you people get this shit.

Umm.... yeah. They do run high 13's, idiot. I don't prefer GT's, but they are not 14 sec cars. I have seen many 100% stock 99+ Gt's run 13.8-13.9 at bremerton.

That's comical.

I definitely see a spanking coming with those times.
Normally I wouldn't knock a car that has a some time and sweat invested in it and can run decent times.... But for a guy who claims to be able to "spank a POS f body", those times suck ass. You can beat a stock LT1 or a stock LS1 w/ a so-so driver.... want a cookie? Let's hope they haven't spent $100 in mods, though, because then they would rape you.

You are saying that that a built 5.0 on drag radials is somehow slower than my entirely stock+airbox lid car.... :rofl:
Man, those fords must SUCK.

I agree with yellow civic ex on that one. I have beat a car (old nova w/ a big block) that pulled it's wheels on launch. It only ran a 13.1, which is damn slow for a car with foot wide mickey thompsons on the back. But I'm guessing that's due to 500 lb ft @ 1000 rpm and 280 hp @ 3800 rpm (or something like that). It's rare though.

ANYWAY...
The first post here was concerning Cobra vs. STi. Having raced both on the highway, and the cobra at the track, I can say that the STi is ALL LAUNCH. I destroyed it on the highway almost as bad as the cobra destroyed me. And at the track, the 100% stock cobra I raced had a couple tenths on me, and I had the better launch.
I'm done.

 

WTF are you smoking, buddy? Bolt on 88-92 5.0's will STOMP me. That means mid 12's if you didn't read my sig. Where do you people get this shit.

Umm.... yeah. They do run high 13's, idiot. I don't prefer GT's, but they are not 14 sec cars. I have seen many 100% stock 99+ Gt's run 13.8-13.9 at bremerton.

That's comical.

I definitely see a spanking coming with those times.
Normally I wouldn't knock a car that has a some time and sweat invested in it and can run decent times.... But for a guy who claims to be able to "spank a POS f body", those times suck ass. You can beat a stock LT1 or a stock LS1 w/ a so-so driver.... want a cookie? Let's hope they haven't spent $100 in mods, though, because then they would rape you.

You are saying that that a built 5.0 on drag radials is somehow slower than my entirely stock+airbox lid car.... :rofl:
Man, those fords must SUCK.

I agree with yellow civic ex on that one. I have beat a car (old nova w/ a big block) that pulled it's wheels on launch. It only ran a 13.1, which is damn slow for a car with foot wide mickey thompsons on the back. But I'm guessing that's due to 500 lb ft @ 1000 rpm and 280 hp @ 3800 rpm (or something like that). It's rare though.

ANYWAY...
The first post here was concerning Cobra vs. STi. Having raced both on the highway, and the cobra at the track, I can say that the STi is ALL LAUNCH. I destroyed it on the highway almost as bad as the cobra destroyed me. And at the track, the 100% stock cobra I raced had a couple tenths on me, and I had the better launch.
I'm done.

 

didnt i clearly say i was talking about f-bodies?lol. last time i checked a big block nova isnt an f-body

 

I've seen a bolt on/12-bolt LT1 camaro pull the right front tire and only run a 12.5. That's pretty slow. But you are generally right about f-bodies.

 

I agree some do lift wheels only runnin 12. but actually holding a wheel stand for 10 feel like(like the pic i showed) takes low 11,s sometimes 10,s.

 

Ya man, once you get the sticky tires you should be laying down a good run. That head gasket replacement is a pain in the ass.

Good idea, to do do a run first to see what the improvement will be on the Stang. What did you do to make the scoop functional? I can't see being able to use a K&N with the hood scoop because they are mostly fender wall instals for the 99+ cars.....did he get something else? Heat would be an issue if the intake was more central I would think?

Anyway, as for the headers (shorties) they will add 5 or maybe 8 horses.......DON"T GO WITH SHORTIES.......use LONG TUBE headers which make a hell of a difference with dyno tests of up to 25 horses with a short X-pipe. BBK makes them, Hooker makes them and Bassani makes them......just so you know. If he's looking for a good time on the strip, why doesn't he look into a rear gear change?