Why not a H22A
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From: Southern NH
Originally Posted by b20hatchy
Yeah the b20 is the cheappest but it is also the most expensive to build. I had one in my hatch and i blew it after 5 months and 15 lbs. I wanted to sleeve it and it was a shit load compared to other b series motors. I called darton to see how much sleeves would be and they said they didnt make them anymore because they had too many problems.
The build isn't all that substantial IMO, a CRV long block will run you $500-$600, with the head anywhere from $700-$1100, depending on choice. There is machine work involved, but you can build one hell of a motor using this platform.
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Originally Posted by b20hatchy
The h series uses cables instead of rods for shift linkage. Alot heavier than a b series and more money to swap in. I would go with a b16b, its not in every other hatch and its got alot of power. so like 95 civic asked; what are you plans for this car. If your boosting then i would go with an ls motor. but if going all motor the best would be b16b. imo.
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Originally Posted by b20hatchy
The h series uses cables instead of rods for shift linkage. Alot heavier than a b series and more money to swap in. I would go with a b16b, its not in every other hatch and its got alot of power. so like 95 civic asked; what are you plans for this car. If your boosting then i would go with an ls motor. but if going all motor the best would be b16b. imo.
Oh ya and once AGAIN it is not that much heavier..... get over that fact because its not true.... they are heavier but not enough to really matter ....
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Originally Posted by Wharbone
umm, yeah. The b16b is the worst bang for buck out of any honda engine.
And as everyone else is saying, the H22 is only like 20 lbs heavier or something like that. The only real advantage of a B-series swap is convenience, since it is a direct drop in.
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Originally Posted by cvchtchbck92
Hi. This is my first post but I have been contemplating whether what type of engine I should get for my 92 Honda Civic CX Hatchback. I have been researching what engines I can and cannot get but the majority of people get a B16 or B18 Type R engine. So here is where my dilemma occurs, why don't people get a H22A engine. It's just as fast (200hp) if not faster and in some cases, its cheaper $$.
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Originally Posted by hondahatch741
heres my take on it .. the motor you choose depends on what you plan on doin with your car and how much money you want to spend on it.. yes gettina b16 or a b18 will b cheaper but you will b faster in a h22.. and yes it is a little more difficult doin a h22 swap but its not imposible .. the only hard part is the wiring which honda-tech has a great write up in the eg section on how to completly swap in a h22 and that you have to get hasport or another similar companies aftermarket mounts and useing different axles... so before you ask your self wha engine you want to buy ask yourself wha do i wanna do with my car then do the home work on every engine in your price range and go from there
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I think evey1's getting a bit hung up on speed here, i know the h22a isnt that much heavier than a B series....however that weight differance will make a big differance in handling especially in a car that weighs only 1060kg.
Hatch civics and crx's are both known to have very light back ends and a engine even only that much heavier will really upset the front to rear weight balance. My freinds EK hatch with a H22a swap handles like shit....and doesnt grip off the line either even with the type s LSD box in it.
Basically, if you wana make it for drag go h22a, if you want a fast road car which handles go B- series boosted. Thats my just my opinion anyway.
Good debate tho! Ste
Hatch civics and crx's are both known to have very light back ends and a engine even only that much heavier will really upset the front to rear weight balance. My freinds EK hatch with a H22a swap handles like shit....and doesnt grip off the line either even with the type s LSD box in it.
Basically, if you wana make it for drag go h22a, if you want a fast road car which handles go B- series boosted. Thats my just my opinion anyway.
Good debate tho! Ste
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From: michigan
Originally Posted by B16a2VTIguy
I think evey1's getting a bit hung up on speed here, i know the h22a isnt that much heavier than a B series....however that weight differance will make a big differance in handling especially in a car that weighs only 1060kg.
Hatch civics and crx's are both known to have very light back ends and a engine even only that much heavier will really upset the front to rear weight balance. My freinds EK hatch with a H22a swap handles like shit....and doesnt grip off the line either even with the type s LSD box in it.
Basically, if you wana make it for drag go h22a, if you want a fast road car which handles go B- series boosted. Thats my just my opinion anyway.
Good debate tho! Ste
Hatch civics and crx's are both known to have very light back ends and a engine even only that much heavier will really upset the front to rear weight balance. My freinds EK hatch with a H22a swap handles like shit....and doesnt grip off the line either even with the type s LSD box in it.
Basically, if you wana make it for drag go h22a, if you want a fast road car which handles go B- series boosted. Thats my just my opinion anyway.
Good debate tho! Ste
