If you want to compensate for the weight difference, you could just relocate the battery to the trunk and use a C/F hood. If you have AC and PS, you could take those out as well. All that would make up for the added weight. There are also some companies that make specialized springs for the H22A swap.

 

Yes he did setup the suspension system for the weight differance, he has AVO coilovers and they have been setup properly. Also he has fitted a carbon bonnet to help weight issues at the front and has a pretty heavy stereo system in the boot to help the weight in the rear (not my cup of tea big stereo systems, but its his car not mine!) Wharbone, you are right you could do these things to compansate for weight, although as i posted the H22a is better for drag but for street use i'd go B series,The reason being loosing the AC and the PS is not the best bet for a daily driver. Also its so much eaisier to fit a B series. All i'm saying is that for a daily driven street car, a B series engine would be the easier option and you can get more than sufficient power for the weight of the car and you'll struggle to get that power down anyways.
Both are a good swap, i personally prefer the B18c5 boosted, but each to their own.
Anyway good luck cvchtchbck92 on whatever you choose. ste

 

If I was to get an H22a (from where? Junk yard for crashed car? Buy from Honda?) along with a MT, how much would that, as well as labor at a shop, etc cost total?

 

H22 is a great motor. I've driven a few EG's with H22's in them. Fast as fuck, but then the chassis wasn't designed for that motor. The weight/balance is all out of sync. It isn't just a matter of suspension. The actual motor design of the B & H are drastic in that the weight is at certain extremes.

 

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that is the stupidest thing I've heard on this site in a while. It is an amazing motor.

If you guys want torque go buy a damn v8 powered mustang or gto.

Hondas will NEVER have comparable torque. Even the h22 and k24a2 are weak torque wise in comparison.

The b16b and b16a are extremely good engines. They can withstand thirty minute track sessions and maintain decent oil temperatures, and do it over and over.


The b16b will rev to 9k consistantly and rarely ever fails. Not to mention that the b16b block is the EXACT same as the b18c (type r spec) block. the only difference is the rotating assembly. Its just a destroked ITR motor. Destroked for better high rpm power and longetivity. The engine was NOT designed for drag racing or street racing.

If you guys want a fast car for drag don't waste your money on b16, but for real racing the b16 is great.

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now onto the tech side of this thread to contribute to the info so far.

although the h22 is a great engine powerwise, and decent for NA drag, it has a few disadvantages.

First the weight, which isn't much. less than 50lbs. Not a huge deal right?

But the second thing is the weight overhang. It is slightly forward and also angled forward over the front axle geometry line. This causes interesting handling characteristics that are undesirable on the track. Think of it this way, when you have a thick ass math book that weighs a shitload. when you hold i close to your body its not that heavy, but if you hold it straight out your arms will get tired as hell after a little while. The book weighs the same but because of its location it has different moment arms and therefore different forces.

and lastly the cable h series transmissions have a vague feel to them and many people dislike it. If you like it then good for you.


If you want street power the k24 or k20 is the way to go. They lean backwards towards the firewall and also sit lower for better COG. They weigh the same as b18s, and the k24 only weighs 7lbs more than b18.

I could go on for hours about this, sorry to rant, but I just get pissed when people doubt the b16s

 

i didnt feel like reading all that stuff, but the h22 isnt the most feasable swap for our civics. too much custom work to be done. put forged pistons and rods in a b18b and turbo it, keep pedal to floor

 

my favorite part! :chuckles:

 

I had thoughts of an h22 swap into a 98 civic (not hatch) would this be possible? I'd get a shop to do it, they have done a few h22 accord swaps, so they know the motor.
I would not be turboing it, and I am prepared to sarcrific power sterring and AC (i read that they do not fit with the h22)

 

I agree here. Also, another thing is the K series are NOT for the weak pocketed. I'd give my left titt to be able to afford a k series but, im stuck with putting in an application at hooters so that i can afford the b18b with mt, thats not even going into forged shit and turbo yet. *sigh* IMO, h22 or kseries, id go for k

 

yea thats definately a no-brainer.

Even the cheap ass k24a1 and k24a3 engines out of the accord and crv flow more CFM's than the h22 and b16/b18c engines.

Then the k20a/k20a2/and k24a2 are even more that the crv and accord ones