ls vtec?
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ls vtec?
ok so ive been doing alot of looking and asking and it seems everyone is against the ls vtec. and with the price of a b18c1 im wondering if it would be better to get a b16a and build that.
im looking to spend around 4000 and the price of the b18c would be streching that. so what do you think the benifits of getting a b16 and building it if there are any benifits. and what type of prices am i going to be looking at for the built b16.
im looking to spend around 4000 and the price of the b18c would be streching that. so what do you think the benifits of getting a b16 and building it if there are any benifits. and what type of prices am i going to be looking at for the built b16.
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it's my D in a B
I say go lsvtec. There is no stock b-series motor that can match the torque and power output of an lsvtec built entirely from OEM parts (excluding fasteners). Since you've decided to build anyway, I see no reason why you shouldn't... its cheaper and more powerful than building a b16a. Assuming youre careful and competent, theres nothing inherently unreliable about it.
:edit: If you would like me to elaborate, just ask :yes: (or do a search in my name on the topic of lsvtec)
:edit: If you would like me to elaborate, just ask :yes: (or do a search in my name on the topic of lsvtec)
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Originally Posted by white_n_slow
There is no stock b-series motor that can match the torque and power output of an lsvtec built entirely from OEM parts (excluding fasteners).
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it's my D in a B
Originally Posted by Kai
Yes there is. Start with a B18C1 or C5, use an "LS" B18A/B crank and rod set. Same as an LS/VTEC hybrid, except there are no external oil lines, but there are oil squirters and a stock crank girdle. I'd still recommend aftermarket or shot peened stock rods.
The only treatment i'd recomend is shot-peening the rods, as kai mentioned, and arp (or equivalent/better) rod bolts and head studs. tcr03, there was a good thread on this a while back in the integra forum... do a search in integra in my name or ISP_James.
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An LS/VTEC is a very fluid engine though, you can build one with a wide variety of parts. An LS/VTEC with stock B18B pistons and a B18C crank/rod set won't perform nearly as well as a stock B18C5... it all depends on your part choice and how you assemble it.
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it's my D in a B
well if he's using a gsr crank, then he just built you a gsr motor, only with lower compression (due to the increased combustion chamber volume of the B16 head). In which case, what you got was a gsr motor sans oil squirters and girdle. The whole benefit of the lsvtec is the LS crank's longer stroke... thats what makes the power that lsvtecs are popular for.