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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by dom93hatch
So the roommate and I decided we should have a firearm here in the house.

Probably as soon as he or I can afford it. It's either a shotgun or a pistol.

Aren't shotguns cheaper?
Get a shotty. Buckshot is more likely to do less damage after passing through a wall in case you miss or in some cases, stop in the wall completely. A slug projected by handgun will likely penetrate the walls with more force and poses a greater danger to other residents that may be in different rooms. Also, the sound of a shotgun being racked should be enough to deter most intruders. However, if it turns out to be a druggy or mentally unstable person, you will have more than enough stopping power in a couple shells to put them on the ground.

I got my Remington 870 from Bud's Gun Shop: http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/95077



Great gun, highly recommended.

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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete
Get a shotty. Buckshot is more likely to do less damage after passing through a wall in case you miss or in some cases, stop in the wall completely. A slug projected by handgun will likely penetrate the walls with more force and poses a greater danger to other residents that may be different rooms. Also, the sound of a shotgun being racked should be enough to deter most intruders. However, if it turns out to be a druggy or mentally unstable person, you will have more than enough stopping power in a couple shells to put them on the ground.
Plus you just have to point it in the general direction of the perp. o:
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dubcac
Plus you just have to point it in the general direction of the perp. o:
Actually, all you have to do is rack the action and it's guaranteed to make anyone within a 7 mile radius lose control of their bowels.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 12:05 PM
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mossberg 500 or remington 870. if you're on a tight budget check out the pardner protector. it's a pretty good 870 knock off. it can often be had for less than 200 at Dick's sporting goods or an equivalent store.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete
Get a shotty. Buckshot is more likely to do less damage after passing through a wall in case you miss or in some cases, stop in the wall completely. A slug projected by handgun will likely penetrate the walls with more force and poses a greater danger to other residents that may be in different rooms. Also, the sound of a shotgun being racked should be enough to deter most intruders. However, if it turns out to be a druggy or mentally unstable person, you will have more than enough stopping power in a couple shells to put them on the ground.

I got my Remington 870 from Bud's Gun Shop: http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/95077



Great gun, highly recommended.
The only time you should rack a shotgun if there is an intruder in your home is after you've fired the first round.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 10:44 PM
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Shotgun. Definitely. Shotgun. 12 gauge.

Liked mine so much, I bought a couple more. Though the one with the 28-inch barrel is a bit too unwieldy for defensive purposes. I outfitted the Winchester 1300 with a pistol grip for easy handling, but I left the Remington 870 with the standard stock so I can still have a shoulder firing version (easier to point, and thus easier to make hits, I think).
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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Just got home from the range. I'm tired but it was a good day. I had high expectations for this rifle and it did not disappoint. It really likes the 168gn A-max. On to the targets...

100yrd testing target. final load and zero in the center. .450"


225yrd .933"


300yrd 1.50"


400yrd 3.65"


My business is killing zombies, and gentlemen business is a booming. (400yrd)


just for fun I put my scope back to zero and shot a 1" shoot n-c dot



clearly this gun is far more capable than I am
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 10:04 PM
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damnnnnn

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i really want something like that for the next toy
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 01:09 PM
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I assume most of you have already heard about this.
After DC v Heller, Chicago's statutes were on thin ice.
Good to see the court rule consistently, IMO.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010...s.html?_r=1&hp

Justices Say Gun Rights Apply Locally

Published: June 28, 2010 By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court held Monday that the Constitution's Second Amendment restrains government's ability to significantly limit "the right to keep and bear arms," advancing a recent trend by the John Roberts-led bench to embrace gun rights.

By a narrow, 5-4 vote, the justices also signaled, however, that some limitations on the right could survive legal challenges.
Writing for the court in a case involving restrictive laws in Chicago and one of its suburbs, Justice Samuel Alito said that the Second Amendment right "applies equally to the federal government and the states."



The court was split along familiar ideological lines, with five conservative-moderate justices in favor of gun rights and four liberals opposed. Chief Justice Roberts voted with the majority.


Two years ago, the court declared that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess guns, at least for purposes of self-defense in the home.
That ruling applied only to federal laws. It struck down a ban on handguns and a trigger lock requirement for other guns in the District of Columbia, a federal city with a unique legal standing. At the same time, the court was careful not to cast doubt on other regulations of firearms here.


Gun rights proponents almost immediately filed a federal lawsuit challenging gun control laws in Chicago and its suburb of Oak Park, Ill, where handguns have been banned for nearly 30 years. The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence says those laws appear to be the last two remaining outright bans.


Lower federal courts upheld the two laws, noting that judges on those benches were bound by Supreme Court precedent and that it would be up to the high court justices to ultimately rule on the true reach of the Second Amendment.


The Supreme Court already has said that most of the guarantees in the Bill of Rights serve as a check on state and local, as well as federal, laws.
Monday's decision did not explicitly strike down the Chicago area laws, ordering a federal appeals court to reconsider its ruling. But it left little doubt that they would eventually fall.


Still, Alito noted that the declaration that the Second Amendment is fully binding on states and cities "limits (but by no means eliminates) their ability to devise solutions to social problems that suit local needs and values."
That said, I'm a little surprised to see Alito move left. At least that's what I take away from the last quote...
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 01:26 PM
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If I had the money, I would totally apply for an FFL move to Chicago and open up shop if the ban is lifted. Business would be amazing.
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