What $87 billion means
Originally Posted by Nightshade
and the more we cut from our schools the more ignorant our children become and they turn out much like....well whatever man.
You just can't justify cuting things like that in my eyes at all.
You just can't justify cuting things like that in my eyes at all.
edit: you guys worked that out while i was typing this up.. you are teh suxor:fawk:
BTW here is what 87 billion looks like stacked next to a car in $1 bills

http://www.crunchweb.net/87billion/

http://www.crunchweb.net/87billion/
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Originally Posted by /^Blackmagik^\
so you're saying the responsibility for education fall solely on the government? i find that extremely short sighted. what happened to the parent's responsibilities? as a parent i know that it is my responsibility first and foremost to provide everything for my child and to give him the education he deserves even if that means doing stuff other that walking my son to the bus every morning. personal responsibility as a parent means a lot more than budget cuts for education.

did you ever stop to think that in paying my taxes the government has promised me a return for my money? They promised me social services programs, to conserve resources within my country, to provide police protection and military protection, to provide my child with a school and books to attend...many other things make the list of what I pay my tax money to go to and here you are mister all american telling me I am wrong???
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Originally Posted by Nightshade
I am going to call you ignorant right here and now so don't take it all personal and shit 
did you ever stop to think that in paying my taxes the government has promised me a return for my money? They promised me social services programs, to conserve resources within my country, to provide police protection and military protection, to provide my child with a school and books to attend...many other things make the list of what I pay my tax money to go to and here you are mister all american telling me I am wrong???

did you ever stop to think that in paying my taxes the government has promised me a return for my money? They promised me social services programs, to conserve resources within my country, to provide police protection and military protection, to provide my child with a school and books to attend...many other things make the list of what I pay my tax money to go to and here you are mister all american telling me I am wrong???
i simply said that education isn't the sole responsibility of the government. then you took it and ran over into left field.
Originally Posted by /^Blackmagik^\
so you're saying the responsibility for education fall solely on the government? i find that extremely short sighted. what happened to the parent's responsibilities? as a parent i know that it is my responsibility first and foremost to provide everything for my child and to give him the education he deserves even if that means doing stuff other that walking my son to the bus every morning. personal responsibility as a parent means a lot more than budget cuts for education.
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but you also gotta understand that the majority of people who needs the afterschool programs are the parents who arent able to educate their kids at home to bring them up to standards, and they do have to rely solely on the government to fund these programs so that little Xio Wu, Rotunda Brown, and Juan Martinez can pass the state exams and move on to the next level of the beautiful public school systems.
just to share, right now im working at a private organization, as opposed to non-profits like i usually do, and i get to talk to a lot of instructors. first thing that i have noticed is that the students here are academically SMART, compared to the students that ive previously worked with. the instructors are always saying...."i wish more parents would involve their kids in programs like ours. they are exposed to so much more." which is completely true, but most fail to grasp that
...it cost ~$250 a week to participate here, so roughly $1000 a month.
from what i know, that $1000 a month is more than half of the monthly income some families of 4 around here makes.
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Originally Posted by /^Blackmagik^\
re-read my post and think over what you just wrote.
i simply said that education isn't the sole responsibility of the government. then you took it and ran over into left field.
i simply said that education isn't the sole responsibility of the government. then you took it and ran over into left field.
yes it is the responsibility of parents to provide an education for their children but there is also a level of expected national care in this as well.
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Originally Posted by Nightshade
No I saw what you said and understood it but you negated any responsibility on the governments part to provide our children with a good education.
yes it is the responsibility of parents to provide an education for their children but there is also a level of expected national care in this as well.
yes it is the responsibility of parents to provide an education for their children but there is also a level of expected national care in this as well.
Originally Posted by /^Blackmagik^\
you should know by now that nothing is a sure thing and if you don't look out for your own first no one else will.
just wondering because although we can teach our kids how many parents can actually be there to provide them with te growing educational demands of todays workplace?
You know in the future these demands will just grow since we are quickly becoming more technically reliant.
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