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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightshade
Oh geez man seriously have you looked at the job market in the last couple years? Its not always an option and if you took a second and considered that not everyone is as educated as you or I then the options are further limited.

I dunno about you sometimes...your cool and all but you only see things from your side and that is it....its like talking to a wall sometimes and it becomes pointless.

I will quit trying to make you understand what I am trying to say because it is pointless to try and discuss points of view with one not interested in exchanging ideas and viewpoints with an open mind.
yes i have looked at the job market in the last couple years. that's why i said that there are always more option such as relocation. my hometown has the highest unemployment rate in the state of virginia. however, a couple counties away has some of the lowest. here in northern va you can't go 10 feet without seeing a help wanted sign. the bottom line is that you do what you have to regardless of how undesirable it is.

i see your point of view and don't agree with it, that's why i'm arguing the point. your last statement is pure irony. you're dismissing my point of view because you don't agree with it. :goodjob:
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 03:07 AM
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The other problem with our education system is the "leave no kid behind" philosophy. If the kid wants to screw about and doesn't give a shit why not just kick his ass right out of school? If he wants to come back make him pay the $7000 a year that it costs the state to send a kid through school. No more state funded babysitting, you need to earn your spot.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 03:31 AM
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why is unemployment bush's fault. the economy started taking a dive even before bush came into office. then it was made worse by 911. during last 4yrs of clinton we saw some of the greatest economic growth we could ever see and it was necessarily due to anything clinton did, it was just timing. it couldn't last for ever, so now democrates blame bush for it. i'm sure if gore won, republicans would blame him for it too.

at least where i live jobs are available for those who want to work, although entry level jobs for college grads seem to be difficult to obtain. this could also be due to the number of college kids graduating now than before. also i notice where i work people are not taking early retirement cause the stock market lost all their money, so these people are working longer which means less openings for new hires.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 06:32 AM
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Alright, the fact is, I am too lazy to finish reading the posts...I got about half way and couldn't take it anymore. But here's all I have to say.

I'm 17 and I know I have no idea what the world is really like I guess. But this is what I know:

Nothing is perfect. Everyone is never happy. Get over it. It is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for a government, even one as great as ours, to please everyone. I'm not saying any of you are wrong or right, because you both make valid points, but what I am saying is that there are plenty of people who are happy with the way things are. And there are also plenty of people who aren't. Some people probably hate the government. But the fact is...there is no way to make everyone happy. There is always some factor to piss someone off, or just rub them the wrong way. If you have some genious solution to perfecting what has been argued and faught over for centuries, please...tell us...or even write the government. Anyway, what I am basically saying is...GET THE **** OVER IT...:fawk:


**EDIT: Quit hating bush because your pissed about the imperfections of the government. They will always be there, always have/always will. He doesn't control everything, he doesn't have a say in everything. There are other people in the government other than Bush. I'm not saying he hasn't made mistakes, cause every president does. Not all of the things you think are wrong is his fault.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 06:36 AM
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The amount of money spent on fighting a war in a week could feed the whole world, educate it, and give it shelter for a whole year.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by axemansean
The amount of money spent on fighting a war in a week could feed the whole world, educate it, and give it shelter for a whole year.
You're ignorant.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Dubs
You're ignorant.
As sad as it may sound it is the truth. It was the truth 10 years back when I first read it in numerous books and publications and it is still the truth today.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 06:42 AM
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I didn't say you were wrong. I just said you're ignorant.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 06:58 AM
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Dubs.

Thanks for that little sky-is-blue lesson, but I think the rest of us already know.

What is it about teenagers? Why do they think that the things that they just learned are things that the adult population never heard of?

The fact is, Dubs, that Bush should be held directly responsible for some of the problems facing us today. It is no secret that the President does not run the country alone, but the Administration does have a duty to lead the country in a way that no other government office does. In a very real way, the executive branch executes policy which is decided by the President, and each and every one of the policies does come from the Oval Office.

You seem to be kind of irritated that blackmagik and nightshade are going punch for punch about this stuff. You shouldn't be. Debate is the essence of democracy. It is through debate that we learn new ideas and learn about each other. Two of the three branches of government are built around the idea that a group of people talking about an issue will result in better thinking and better decisions.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by benjamin
Dubs.

Thanks for that little sky-is-blue lesson, but I think the rest of us already know.

What is it about teenagers? Why do they think that the things that they just learned are things that the adult population never heard of?

The fact is, Dubs, that Bush should be held directly responsible for some of the problems facing us today. It is no secret that the President does not run the country alone, but the Administration does have a duty to lead the country in a way that no other government office does. In a very real way, the executive branch executes policy which is decided by the President, and each and every one of the policies does come from the Oval Office.

You seem to be kind of irritated that blackmagik and nightshade are going punch for punch about this stuff. You shouldn't be. Debate is the essence of democracy. It is through debate that we learn new ideas and learn about each other. Two of the three branches of government are built around the idea that a group of people talking about an issue will result in better thinking and better decisions.
You're absolutely right. I wasn't in anyway saying that anyone was wrong, thus I was saying that Bush might be responsible (I don't know). I know that debate is good, and is a part of our democratic system. But when someone continuously bashes the US (i.e. Nightshade) I get irritated because I was under the impression that life in our contry was a lot better than most others. But I could be wrong. :dunno:

BTW, I'm only 17 (as indicated) so give me a little break...
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