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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 03:28 AM
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There's no abuse in the system in this regard since the person claiming the child really does have to care for the child
THere is abuse 1. simply b/c you get money back that you didn't pay in taxes. It's theft, pure and simple. Vote buying government sponsored theft. If people with children were so bad off they paid nothing in taxes but were getting that "credit" back as a free check then they are ****ing up their lives and have no one to blame but themselves. I've seen it first hand.

There is no exuse for making $10,000 or less a year if you are 1. not mentally challenged 2. are over the age of 18
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Vampgrrl
THere is abuse 1. simply b/c you get money back that you didn't pay in taxes. It's theft, pure and simple. Vote buying government sponsored theft. If people with children were so bad off they paid nothing in taxes but were getting that "credit" back as a free check then they are ****ing up their lives and have no one to blame but themselves. I've seen it first hand.

There is no exuse for making $10,000 or less a year if you are 1. not mentally challenged 2. are over the age of 18

wow.. i don't even have to comment here.. your ignorance is obvious.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Vampgrrl
THere is abuse 1. simply b/c you get money back that you didn't pay in taxes. It's theft, pure and simple. Vote buying government sponsored theft. If people with children were so bad off they paid nothing in taxes but were getting that "credit" back as a free check then they are ****ing up their lives and have no one to blame but themselves. I've seen it first hand.

There is no exuse for making $10,000 or less a year if you are 1. not mentally challenged 2. are over the age of 18

really, and who will be watching my kid while I am in class every morning and working my two jobs to make over 10k? Even with two parents involved it's hard to balance work, school, kids, chores, errands and a small social life. I'm sure you've babysitted a few times and know exactly how hard it is to take care of a kid, like when they wake you up at 0530 EVERY morning and proceed to try to get into everything possible. I am exhausted just trying to keep the house together and my schoolwork done..how am I supposed to hold down this mythical over 10k a year job that is available to a young mother who's availability is 930 in the morning to 430 at night, monday through friday?
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 05:15 AM
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^I suppose you shouldn't have had a kid until you were financially ready to do so.

If you had any marketable job skill you would be able to get a ok job and pay for daycare. It shouldn't be the taxpayers job to pay for someone's irresponsibility.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 05:15 AM
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considering a small town and a local meat market, chances are (like said before) all those steaks and jerky rang up as straight MEAT, with no clear definition on the reciept or what not, hence when accountants @ the welfare office see the transactions, all they see is a sum of money used for purchasing meat....plain and simple. Yes, it sucks this was a crink in the system and the holder was benefiting from that crink.....No system is perfect. There are always going to be people who want to find a way to cheat the system.....it's a way of life, unfortunately.
Welfare was not designed to support people...heck..it was just the opposite. It was designed to give people with NO income some expenses but so little expenses that it would force them to find work....that was the IDEA....after many a years and many a debates...that idea is lost and yes...it's sad to see people abuse the system...People in the ghettos driving around in leased surburbans with 24" chrome rims while we (the hard working class) drive around in our small commuter cars, hoping to survive the next week. Yes, i am making a whole lot of assumptions but you see where i'm getting at.
My idea: there is no simple answer...heck..i dont even know if there is one. All i know is htat i wish there could be a way so that i know exactly where my tax money is going and/or i decide where it goes....but that's not going to happen.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Vampgrrl
^I suppose you shouldn't have had a kid until you were financially ready to do so.

If you had any marketable job skill you would be able to get a ok job and pay for daycare. It shouldn't be the taxpayers job to pay for someone's irresponsibility.
with your high and mighty attitude.. what is YOUR marketable job skill?
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Vampgrrl
There is no exuse for making $10,000 or less a year if you are 1. not mentally challenged 2. are over the age of 18
Originally Posted by Vampgrrl
^I suppose you shouldn't have had a kid until you were financially ready to do so.

If you had any marketable job skill you would be able to get a ok job and pay for daycare. It shouldn't be the taxpayers job to pay for someone's irresponsibility.

:eek3: whoa.

first of all, it's not your business when someone decides to have a child. you don't know the circumstances surrounding lil rexen's decision to become a parent. for all you know, she very well could have been married to a man who was making the bulk of the family income, who then left or died, leaving her to the sole responsibility of providing for the child. (i don't know the actual circumstances of this particular situation, but it's a possibility.) don't make broad assumptions about people. it only makes you look like a moron. when the kid is pushing out of YOUR nether regions, then you can comment.

secondly, i can think of a lot of jobs that require a specialized skill that don't pay out over $10,000 per year.

but since you are so wise and are so widely knowledgeable about every career available, and about all of the available workforce, i'll shut up now.

actually, i'm sort of looking forward to seeing what more bull@#&^$ you can pull out of your arse/mouth.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 06:50 AM
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Haha.
It IS my business when and if the money any person is using is taxpayer funded.

Some people just don't get it, I and many others had to EARN that money by working. What right would someone have to take that money for their own personal gain and have no responsibility to pay that back once they are back on their feet. If it was a loan at a very low interest rate or HELL no interest rate I'd feel alot better about it.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 06:54 AM
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Bail out loans do not work. Just ask the IMF.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Vampgrrl
Haha.
It IS my business when and if the money any person is using is taxpayer funded.

Some people just don't get it, I and many others had to EARN that money by working. What right would someone have to take that money for their own personal gain and have no responsibility to pay that back once they are back on their feet. If it was a loan at a very low interest rate or HELL no interest rate I'd feel alot better about it.

it's getting really tiresome to read through the same rants you graced us with previously. how about you try considering someone else's life and situation and try answering some of the questions addressed to you?
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