^Perhaps so...but considering the GOP wants into your religous and personal life..Demorats seem to want into my wallet.

 

I'd rather have my Democrats in my wallet than the GOP in my children's wallets.

I totally agree with Libertarian non-involvement in personal life and morality, but the rest of the package is a bit extreme for my tastes.

 

Well in 2001 I think it was, I remember paying almost $11,000 in taxes, all taxes combined. The joke that is federal taxes, state and the REALLY LARGE FUNNY ha-ha that is social security all because I was not married, no kids, did not own property. I was not rich but the government seemed to put me in that catagory.

I Am trying to get into a house right now, that's like $120,000 (cheap house around here) mostly to lower my tax burden somewhat (plus my apartment sucks...damn crime ridden ghetto)

 

yep, i know the feeling. i guesstimate that well over $40k of my income has gone to the feds, state, social security, and medicare, over the past 3-4 years. you'd think that i have shit loads of cash.. ha!

 

Actually, making welfare into a loan is a terrible idea, and here's why:

I'm assuming you were referring to a deferred loan, which means that they don't have to start paying back the loan until they're off welfare.

Most people exiting welfare do so by getting a job at or near minimum wage that almost never includes health insurance. So, at the minimum, a person in this example would immediately begin paying for rent, food, telephone service and health insurance, not to mention taxes.

If the American dream is to pull oneself up by one's bootstraps, how many more years will it take for this person to begin saving money for the future if they are also paying back a "welfare loan?" Wouldn't you rather they spend the money on, say, higher education? Then they'll have a chance to get a better paying job and put more money back into the system in the form of taxes.

By the way, I have a message to you kids that were enjoying that "silly blacks" comment posted by spankaveli earlier in the thread: even if you think Colin Powell is a swell guy and Condi Rice is doing a great job, you're still a racist. Don't be proud of it.

 

1. I dont have health insurance myself, I am a contract employee. Still no excuse, students get out of college and VERY often have trouble finding work...same bullshit.

2. I think Colin Powell and Condi Rice are :goodjob:
So I'm a racist? Can I be a racist too? I mean as long as you are tossing out that word...I can't wait til I tell all my buddies I am a racist too.

 

i think he meant anyone who found that "silly blacks" comment on the first page of this thread to be amusing.. and yeah, it was totally uncalled for.. :nono:

 

I guess I missed it totally.