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Old Dec 5, 2003 | 06:15 AM
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Originally posted by qtiger
We supported Saddam against Iran AFTER he used chemical weapons against the Kurds.


And as for human rights... why don't you do some research into how wonderful things are in Nigeria? What, haven't heard anything about it on the news? Maybe that's because Shell is making billions of dollars a year from the oil it's pumping out of Nigeria?


Hmmm......


Big government doesn't care about human rights violations, dictatorship, any of that bullshit. They'll prattle on about democracy but the bottom line is this:

As long as the country opens its borders to free trade, there's no problem. We'll turn a blind eye. But if they don't allow US-based multinationals in, all of a sudden they're the bad guy.
:werd: x infinity :goodjob: I couldn't have said it better myself! Don't forget who gave him those WMD to fight the Iranians. :wavey: ahem.

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BTW RB when were we directly threatened by Iraq?

We asked if we could enter their borders and were told no...that is when all this jumped off and took a side track...we still haven't found any weapons of mass destruction to prove that we were justified in our attack.
why else do you think they changed it to "Freeing the oppressed Iraqi People from a dictator" ?

Originally posted by RB
when they again refused the mandatory UN inspections. What is a logical reason for refusing them, if they don't have anything? :dunno:
Since we're doing bad anologys here, how about this. Cop comes up to me in the street and wants to search me. I tell him to piss off. What I have is none of his business, unless he has a warrant. Now, the UN had a warrant, so to say, but if I don't obey, the cop doesnt attack me.

Originally posted by qtiger
I love how everyone was all concerned that Iraq refused the UN inspections, but then it's okay for US to go against the UN by invading Iraq. :wtf:
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Originally posted by Nightshade

Diplomacy is dead with this president.
He never had it. Neither did his daddy.

Originally posted by qtiger
Okay, let's play pretend. You and your best friend are sitting at a 2 person table at McDonalds.

A man comes in with a gun, and says "You two are both evil and I hate you."

The man shoots your friend in the face.


You will:

A) Assume the man IS NOT going to shoot you in the face next.

B) Assume the man IS going to shoot you in the face next.
when one assumes, their "president select" makes an ass out of u and me... and the whole country.
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Old Dec 5, 2003 | 06:43 AM
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this site had GTST written all over it from the first post.
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Old Dec 5, 2003 | 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by ManInCamo
DIfference is, Saddam was stupid, literally, and Kim is a madman.

Oh, and its only a matter of time with NK... I can almost garuntee that I'll be serving over there in a war in the future.

Well good, you know, I'm really looking forward to mutually assured destruction. I've felt out of thermonuclear danger since the cold war stopped and I really miss it. :jerkit:
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Old Dec 5, 2003 | 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by qtiger
Well good, you know, I'm really looking forward to mutually assured destruction. I've felt out of thermonuclear danger since the cold war stopped and I really miss it. :jerkit:
you know ... the more I think about your previous post, the more I agree with it. It's all about the money US corporations can get out of another company. That reminds me of how we've never invaded a country that has a McDonalds in it.
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Old Dec 5, 2003 | 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by qtiger
Well good, you know, I'm really looking forward to mutually assured destruction. I've felt out of thermonuclear danger since the cold war stopped and I really miss it. :jerkit:
Yea, i'm really excited about it


oh and a war with NK wouldn't be M.A.D. they can only get missles to california, and have limited numbers, we can destroy the whole world MANY MANY MANY times over. one of our missles, with 12 warheads can knock out all their major citys.


USA > *





Aside from that, many of you are ignorant on economic policies and cause/effects of recessions/booms etc please stop arguing about ecomomic/money reasons to hate bush, you only make yourself look stupid to the educated.
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Old Dec 5, 2003 | 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by ManInCamo
Yea, i'm really excited about it


oh and a war with NK wouldn't be M.A.D. they can only get missles to california, and have limited numbers, we can destroy the whole world MANY MANY MANY times over. one of our missles, with 12 warheads can knock out all their major citys.


USA > *





Aside from that, many of you are ignorant on economic policies and cause/effects pelase stop arguing about ecomomic/money reasons to hate bush.
Oh, lets be proud at the fact we can annihilate ourselves instead of work things out like civilized people. You can argue about the economic/money issues, but numbers speak for themselves.
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Old Dec 5, 2003 | 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by sxecrow
Oh, lets be proud at the fact we can annihilate ourselves instead of work things out like civilized people. You can argue about the economic/money issues, but numbers speak for themselves.

... have you ever taken a college level economics class... or for that matter any college level class? You make yourself sound stupid.
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Old Dec 5, 2003 | 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by ManInCamo
oh and a war with NK wouldn't be M.A.D. they can only get missles to california, and have limited numbers, we can destroy the whole world MANY MANY MANY times over. one of our missles, with 12 warheads can knock out all their major citys.
Right. I'm sure China will sit by twiddling their thumbs while we drop nukes in their backyard. Good plan. :goodjob:





Originally posted by ManInCamo
Aside from that, many of you are ignorant on economic policies and cause/effects pelase stop arguing about ecomomic/money reasons to hate bush.
I don't subscribe to Keynsian economic theory. It is my opinion that Bush's policies are flawed.

But really we aren't talking about domestic economic policy. I was commenting upon how large US-based multinational corporations affect foreign policy.
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Old Dec 5, 2003 | 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by qtiger
Right. I'm sure China will sit by twiddling their thumbs while we drop nukes in their backyard. Good plan. :goodjob:







I don't subscribe to Keynsian economic theory. It is my opinion that Bush's policies are flawed.

But really we aren't talking about domestic economic policy. I was commenting upon how large US-based multinational corporations affect foreign policy.


1: You don't subsribe to modern economics?!!????!!?

2: It boils down to this, the US and China CAN'T AFFORD TO GO TO WAR with each other. The world market depends too heavily on the US, and China, as do each respective country's economy. That, and if the UN got involved and that = more economic sanctions. China would be a 3rd world country again. as far as death numbers... yea, those would be big and ugly .

BUT eventually we would use nukes to stop the numbers on our side from rising and to end the war, just like we did with Japan.


BTW: nobody likes war, so don't try and label me a war-monger. You can if you want, it has no effect on me, but just don't think that anyone WANTS to go to war.
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Old Dec 5, 2003 | 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by ManInCamo
1: You don't subsribe to modern economics?!!????!!?
I don't subscribe to modern art either. Just because it's newer doesn't mean it is better. I think the economy is flexible enough to handle itself without government interference under most circumstances.

Secondly, I think right now the mean propensity to consume is too low for tax cuts to have any real effect on the economy. People are still uncertain and reluctant to spend.

Originally posted by ManInCamo
2: It boils down to this, the US and China CAN'T AFFORD TO GO TO WAR with each other. The world market depends too heavily on the US, and China, as do each respective country's economy. That, and if the UN got involved and that = more economic sanctions. China would be a 3rd world country again. as far as death numbers... yea, those would be big and ugly .
If North Korea nuked the US and we retaliated, I think China would use their full second strike capability against the United States.
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