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From: My own level of hell
Originally posted by RB
Thats not the point in question, however, when we are already being threatened by a hostile country, its fuel to the fire.
Thats not the point in question, however, when we are already being threatened by a hostile country, its fuel to the fire.
We asked if we could enter their borders and were told no...that is when all this jumped off and took a side track...we still haven't found any weapons of mass destruction to prove that we were justified in our attack.
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From: Portland, OR
Originally posted by Nightshade
BTW RB when were we directly threatened by Iraq?
We asked if we could enter their borders and were told no...that is when all this jumped off and took a side track...we still haven't found any weapons of mass destruction to prove that we were justified in our attack.
BTW RB when were we directly threatened by Iraq?
We asked if we could enter their borders and were told no...that is when all this jumped off and took a side track...we still haven't found any weapons of mass destruction to prove that we were justified in our attack.
when they again refused the mandatory UN inspections. What is a logical reason for refusing them, if they don't have anything? :dunno:
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Originally posted by qtiger
By calling him part of the "Axis of Evil" and equating North Korea with Iraq, and then stating his intention to invade Iraq? Does any of this ring a bell? :slap:
By calling him part of the "Axis of Evil" and equating North Korea with Iraq, and then stating his intention to invade Iraq? Does any of this ring a bell? :slap:
Jung-Il was the one to basically come out and flaunt that he's got nuclear capabilities, and basically said he'll use them. This all happened when we already invaded Iraq.
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Originally posted by RB
when they again refused the mandatory UN inspections. What is a logical reason for refusing them, if they don't have anything? :dunno:
when they again refused the mandatory UN inspections. What is a logical reason for refusing them, if they don't have anything? :dunno:
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Originally posted by RB
when they again refused the mandatory UN inspections. What is a logical reason for refusing them, if they don't have anything? :dunno:
when they again refused the mandatory UN inspections. What is a logical reason for refusing them, if they don't have anything? :dunno:
Diplomacy is dead with this president.
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Originally posted by RB
Jung-Il was the one to basically come out and flaunt that he's got nuclear capabilities, and basically said he'll use them. This all happened when we already invaded Iraq.
Jung-Il was the one to basically come out and flaunt that he's got nuclear capabilities, and basically said he'll use them. This all happened when we already invaded Iraq.
A man comes in with a gun, and says "You two are both evil and I hate you."
The man shoots your friend in the face.
You will:
A) Assume the man IS NOT going to shoot you in the face next.
B) Assume the man IS going to shoot you in the face next.
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From: Portland, OR
Originally posted by qtiger
Okay, let's play pretend. You and your best friend are sitting at a 2 person table at McDonalds.
A man comes in with a gun, and says "You two are both evil and I hate you."
The man shoots your friend in the face.
You will:
A) Assume the man is NOT going to shoot you in the face next.
B) Assume the man IS going to shoot you in the face next.
Okay, let's play pretend. You and your best friend are sitting at a 2 person table at McDonalds.
A man comes in with a gun, and says "You two are both evil and I hate you."
The man shoots your friend in the face.
You will:
A) Assume the man is NOT going to shoot you in the face next.
B) Assume the man IS going to shoot you in the face next.
horrible analogy, but I see what you are getting at. The problem with that is that North Korea and Iraq showed no prior involvement, and in your analogy its obvious that the two are together.
again I still understand, that because the US grouped them together that we associated the evils of Saddam and pushed them onto N. Korea. And as pathetic as this sounds, the only thing the two have in common is their "evilness" :chuckles:
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From: Charlotte, NC
Originally posted by qtiger
Okay, let's play pretend. You and your best friend are sitting at a 2 person table at McDonalds.
A man comes in with a gun, and says "You two are both evil and I hate you."
The man shoots your friend in the face.
You will:
A) Assume the man IS NOT going to shoot you in the face next.
B) Assume the man IS going to shoot you in the face next.
Okay, let's play pretend. You and your best friend are sitting at a 2 person table at McDonalds.
A man comes in with a gun, and says "You two are both evil and I hate you."
The man shoots your friend in the face.
You will:
A) Assume the man IS NOT going to shoot you in the face next.
B) Assume the man IS going to shoot you in the face next.
great analogy!
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Originally posted by qtiger
We supported Saddam against Iran AFTER he used chemical weapons against the Kurds.
And as for human rights... why don't you do some research into how wonderful things are in Nigeria? What, haven't heard anything about it on the news? Maybe that's because Shell is making billions of dollars a year from the oil it's pumping out of Nigeria?
Hmmm......
Big government doesn't care about human rights violations, dictatorship, any of that bullshit. They'll prattle on about democracy but the bottom line is this:
As long as the country opens its borders to free trade, there's no problem. We'll turn a blind eye. But if they don't allow US-based multinationals in, all of a sudden they're the bad guy.
By calling him part of the "Axis of Evil" and equating North Korea with Iraq, and then stating his intention to invade Iraq? Does any of this ring a bell? :slap:
We supported Saddam against Iran AFTER he used chemical weapons against the Kurds.
And as for human rights... why don't you do some research into how wonderful things are in Nigeria? What, haven't heard anything about it on the news? Maybe that's because Shell is making billions of dollars a year from the oil it's pumping out of Nigeria?
Hmmm......
Big government doesn't care about human rights violations, dictatorship, any of that bullshit. They'll prattle on about democracy but the bottom line is this:
As long as the country opens its borders to free trade, there's no problem. We'll turn a blind eye. But if they don't allow US-based multinationals in, all of a sudden they're the bad guy.
By calling him part of the "Axis of Evil" and equating North Korea with Iraq, and then stating his intention to invade Iraq? Does any of this ring a bell? :slap:
1, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Saddam was the lesser of two evils at the time, and he was a sissy, we could easily control him
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2. You want to bitch about how we try and change the world, and our economy sucks, or do you want to bitch about how we don't change the world and we don't do anything to help the economy. Make up your mine
Originally posted by qtiger
I love how everyone was all concerned that Iraq refused the UN inspections, but then it's okay for US to go against the UN by invading Iraq. :wtf:
I love how everyone was all concerned that Iraq refused the UN inspections, but then it's okay for US to go against the UN by invading Iraq. :wtf:
UN isn't the big mommy to the world you think it is.
The UN also didn't do shit about the Molosovic's ethnic cleansing... they just overlooked it, it was NATO, lead by the US that went in and took care of that. thats just an example. the UN is designed to prevent conflict, and they're a bunch of sissy's.
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Originally posted by qtiger
Okay, let's play pretend. You and your best friend are sitting at a 2 person table at McDonalds.
A man comes in with a gun, and says "You two are both evil and I hate you."
The man shoots your friend in the face.
You will:
A) Assume the man IS NOT going to shoot you in the face next.
B) Assume the man IS going to shoot you in the face next.
Okay, let's play pretend. You and your best friend are sitting at a 2 person table at McDonalds.
A man comes in with a gun, and says "You two are both evil and I hate you."
The man shoots your friend in the face.
You will:
A) Assume the man IS NOT going to shoot you in the face next.
B) Assume the man IS going to shoot you in the face next.
DIfference is, Saddam was stupid, literally, and Kim is a madman.
Oh, and its only a matter of time with NK... I can almost garuntee that I'll be serving over there in a war in the future.