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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DVPGSR
Iran is a threat and their Hitleresque President has already vowed to destroy Israel. Further Iran is a producer of terror aiding Hezbollah in terrorist attacks against Israel and elsewhere as well as fuelling the terrorist attacks in Iraq. Finally a nuclear armed Iran is not just a threat to Israel but also Europe and our bases in the Middle east and Turkey. This is something that cannot happen and appeasement is not an option. Ask Neville Chamberlain how well that worked with Hitler.
I'm sorry, but comparing the Iranian President to Hitler is absurd. There are big differences and you should be able to see them clearly.

I believe that it would be much more helpful if we look at the causes of the Muslim world's hate towards the west. Looking throughout history, we have continued to screw the Middle East time and time again after the Ottoman Empire fell. In the end, it is OUR fault that the Middle East is in the condition it is in now.

In addition, it would be worthwhile to examine what would happen AFTER we invade Iran. The leaders of Iran have popular backing. People love them. Imagine occupying a country in which nearly everyone in it wants us dead. Maybe MacArthur could pull it off, but the current administration surely could not. Furthermore, Islam does not exactly support democracy. People WANT religion in government. As we have also seen throughout history, religion and state do not mix well.

It is not a question of appeasement. It is simply a matter of not invading countries that do not like us.
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MellowGold
I believe that it would be much more helpful if we look at the causes of the Muslim world's hate towards the west. Looking throughout history, we have continued to screw the Middle East time and time again after the Ottoman Empire fell. In the end, it is OUR fault that the Middle East is in the condition it is in now.
Wow, that's funny, because it's exactly what the Germans said about us in 1939. And just like the Nazis, their idea of 'getting back' is killing all of us.
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 02:16 PM
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Your point? The Germans had every right to mad at us. We completely screwed them over after WWI.
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MellowGold
Your point? The Germans had every right to mad at us. We completely screwed them over after WWI.
i'm pissed off. let me kill 6 million jews. that make all kinds of sense. you're an idiot.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MellowGold
Your point? The Germans had every right to mad at us. We completely screwed them over after WWI.
Yes, the German actions in WWII were completely justified. You, sir, are a moron.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 98CoupeV6
Yes, the German actions in WWII were completely justified. You, sir, are a moron.
Justified, no. But it was hatred of the rest of the Europe and the United States that made Hitler's rise to power possible.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Kestrel
Justified, no. But it was hatred of the rest of the Europe and the United States that made Hitler's rise to power possible.
...just as hatred was why the Ayatolla Khamenei was able to rise to power! Thank you for proving our point why Iran resembles Nazi Germany

Here's a treasure: President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad warned last Friday that Israel was heading toward “annihilation.” He was speaking at a Tehran conference on Palestinian rights aimed at promoting Iran as a new Middle Eastern superpower.

No, no, don't sugar coat it, Iran
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 07:18 PM
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bush is stupid. but I HIGHLY doubt he is stupid enough to use nuclear weapons. that would just create a global tragedy.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 98CoupeV6
...just as hatred was why the Ayatolla Khamenei was able to rise to power! Thank you for proving our point why Iran resembles Nazi Germany
Not quite. The reason that Germans hated the other European countries is because Germany was forced to pay for the rebuilding of not only itself, but of every other European nation as well (not to mention they had one of the highest casualty rates in WWI). While the US had a huge boom in 20's, the German people suffered severe depression. Which is why, after WWII, rather than making Germany pay reparations, the United States actually shelled out its own cash to rebuild Germany instead of making Germany pay reparations. The point: hard handedness can often backfire, and sometimes restraint is the way to win.

What are we talking about again? h:
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Kestrel
Justified, no. But it was hatred of the rest of the Europe and the United States that made Hitler's rise to power possible.
if this were completely accurate, hitler wouldn't have needed to use the jewish population as target for the frustrations of the masses.
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