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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 11:28 AM
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Corvettes suck!.
Thats my personal view. Im not into the American car scene because obviously you see what cars are on the side of the roads.

I have two cars
1. 02 accord 4cyl sedan
& my toy car
2. 98 GTI vr6 turbo'd w/ 95 engine

Every Spring my brother and I take our cars to the pocono raceways ( April 10- 11, 04 )
and we race around the track. its about 6 of us.

One of our friends has an 01 Corvette not sure what type though. Dont really care to know.

All I can vouch for is that I smoke his ass on the track.
My GTI takes off quicker and top end is beyond great.

Now It could be power/weight ratio as to why I whip him but,
corvettes arent what they are cracked up to be.
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by flyromeo3
Corvettes suck!.
Thats my personal view. Im not into the American car scene because obviously you see what cars are on the side of the roads.

I have two cars
1. 02 accord 4cyl sedan
& my toy car
2. 98 GTI vr6 turbo'd w/ 95 engine

Every Spring my brother and I take our cars to the pocono raceways ( April 10- 11, 04 )
and we race around the track. its about 6 of us.

One of our friends has an 01 Corvette not sure what type though. Dont really care to know.

All I can vouch for is that I smoke his ass on the track.
My GTI takes off quicker and top end is beyond great.

Now It could be power/weight ratio as to why I whip him but,
corvettes arent what they are cracked up to be.
yea well i think gti's suck

a few points, though

first of all, you have 300+ whp in a car that weighs next to nothing. and i'm sure plenty of other work.

second, the transmission in a vette determines a lot of its performance potential. if he's got an automatic, chances are he's got the crappy 2.73 gears. tell him to get decent gears and a nice stall converter, and then tell me you're still smoking him at the track. if he's got a stick, does he know how to drive it? owning a corvette doesn't necessarily mean you can drive it.

finally, you can make a piece of crap do the quarter mile in 8 seconds, but in the end all you've got is an 8 second piece of crap. i'd take the vette over a gti any day.

anyway, it looks like you have a pretty sick car. if it's not too much trouble, you think you could post a time slip of you vs your friend?
Old Mar 30, 2004 | 07:28 PM
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hahaha quarter mile i belvie the zr-1 rund that in a 12.9 best while the nsx runs 13.4's i think around the track i do not know the nsx has better weight distribution most licklly better suspension and so forth it would make a good race but i imagine the nsx would win bc it keeps up and sometimes beats a zo6 which is a little faster then a zr-1.

oh yea jsut for the record i would take a zr-1 over the z06 anyday
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 02:23 AM
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I've always felt the only real Corvette was the ZR-1. Even the Z06 doesn't compare to it. Now, the new C6 may be a different story. But I think GM dropped the ball by not incorporating the ZR-1's performance into a standard base Corvette.
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 11:27 AM
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the new zo6 is faster in everyway but with the zr-1 chevy took a big technology leap in engine deisgn then when they went to the zo6 they jsut dropped all the wonderful dohc and 4 valves a cylindar. they should have jsut stayed with it and made even more insane powerr to go back to crap
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by twin3037
the new zo6 is faster in everyway but with the zr-1 chevy took a big technology leap in engine deisgn then when they went to the zo6 they jsut dropped all the wonderful dohc and 4 valves a cylindar. they should have jsut stayed with it and made even more insane powerr to go back to crap
are you kidding? the ls6 makes just as much power as the lt5. don't believe me? go to zr1.net and check out the stock dyno numbers. i think the *highest* stock dyno i saw was around 340 rwhp - less than 02+ z06's dyno. and it's definitely not maxed out, just like the lt5 isn't maxed out.

i don't understand the problem with pushrod engines. if they can make just as much power with one cam, why do you need four?
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverTransAm
are you kidding? the ls6 makes just as much power as the lt5. don't believe me? go to zr1.net and check out the stock dyno numbers. i think the *highest* stock dyno i saw was around 340 rwhp - less than 02+ z06's dyno. and it's definitely not maxed out, just like the lt5 isn't maxed out.

i don't understand the problem with pushrod engines. if they can make just as much power with one cam, why do you need four?
OHC and DOHC engines are more efficient and run smoother than pushrod designs. Talk to any mechanical engineer. There is a good deal of energy used (read fuel economy lost ) in the transfer from the cam through the rods up to the valves to open and close them. It is much more of an efficient design to run the valves directly off the cam. A pushrod design is simple and reliable, but if done right, OHC is just as if not more reliable than a pushrod. And the efficiency equation can either yield better fuel economy or more hp, depending on how the rest of the engine is tuned.

And I know people don't care about fuel economy with a Corvette. So, to increase performance, just bore it and stroke it to 6.0 liters (which the C6 is now).
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by fastball
OHC and DOHC engines are more efficient and run smoother than pushrod designs. Talk to any mechanical engineer. There is a good deal of energy used (read fuel economy lost ) in the transfer from the cam through the rods up to the valves to open and close them. It is much more of an efficient design to run the valves directly off the cam. A pushrod design is simple and reliable, but if done right, OHC is just as if not more reliable than a pushrod. And the efficiency equation can either yield better fuel economy or more hp, depending on how the rest of the engine is tuned.

And I know people don't care about fuel economy with a Corvette. So, to increase performance, just bore it and stroke it to 6.0 liters (which the C6 is now).
that's funny, because i'm halfway to being a mechanical engineer

anyway, i know ohc engines are more efficient, but i don't care how my power is made. anybody that doesn't buy a vette only because it doesn't have an ohc engine is a fool
Old Apr 2, 2004 | 12:24 PM
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also, the ls1/6 weigh 200+ pounds less than the lt5

from zr1.net
QUESTION: What is the weight of the LT5 engine?

ANS: The LT5 engines weighs 741 lbs. including shipping crate.

Here are some other weights:
L98 - Auto 431 lbs, Manual 592.2 lbs
LT1 - 452 lbs
LT4 - 1003.5 lbs
LS1 - Auto 457.6 lbs, Manual 497.2 lbs
LS6 - 497.2 lbs
Old Apr 2, 2004 | 12:28 PM
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no i know the zo6 engine makes more power and that the car istelf is better in everyway. b7ut i would rather have the zr-1 becasue of the rarity and the fact taht it is ohc i jsut like ohc better then pushrod jsut my personally prefrence



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