think this one is only in japan http://www.travel-suite.com/2003-Toyota-Supra.htm

 

When is it going to end? Mr. ray_raymond_ray, most people here are more informed than you. That's why we dont to hear your bullshit. The people of News And Rumors are not biased, just check out previous threads. ray_raymond_ray, my advice is for you to stop talking like you know any more than any of us, because you dont.

Did you know that Toyota already has a V12? It's in the Japan only Century. It's a 5.0L V12. Could have sworn you said something about them not wanting anything with more than 10 cylinders.

Did you know that the MR2 and the Supra used to be out at the same time? History might just repeat itself buddy. A mid-rear roadster with a 1.8L engine and a front-rear sports coupe with a big V6 dont have too much in common last time I checked. They might come close in price, but they are very different driving experiences for different people.

"There will also be a IS430 but it will house a V8. . . I have no clue where the V8 comes from. It may be NA or possibly use the LS500's new engine. There will also be a toyota super car. which will basically be a high end supra. There was talk of a V12. However Toyota wants to go no higher that 10cyl..... This supercar has been talked about for some time now. Its been rumored to be calls the 4000 GT, and 5000GT... but could also be called Supra 4000/5000GT. "

WTF do you mean by NA? Naturally aspirated? Becuase you go on to say it might use the LS500's new engine. Wont that be NA also? The supercar will basically be a high end supra? How so? How can you call something a supercar when it shares its roots with a entry level sports sedan and a 30k sports coupe? Supercar means its made of carbon fiber, or heck you can even call the all aluminum NSX a supercar. Let's take the GT-R for example. It's going to be based on the FM platform, such as the G35, 350Z and FX SUV. Your telling me a supercar can share its whole friggin platform with friggin 30k cars? Dont think so. Therefor if thise Toyota 4000GT is just a supra with more power, it will NOT be a supercar. Not if its made out of expensive HIGH TECH stuff, then sure, why not.

Dont talk like you know what Toyota wants in the future, when you dont even know what they have know. I could go on and on and find millions of faults i all that youve said. When people say stupid shit, it doesnt bother me. But they insult the people they are talking to, then it does bother me.

Who cares, all that matters is that Toyota's are nice cars. For our parents....

 

listen human anatomy person... That whole thing is over...... why are you still going on about it. I never said toyota didn't have a V12. I said that it's been said that they don't want to drop one in the GT if they make it.

And yes you are right. The MR. and supra have both been come gone, and reapeared in the toyota lineup. But wouldn;t you agree that if there is an offer of more for your money, at an almost equal price that you would take what offers more? it is simple economics. IT matters not what the feel of each car is. If a person can get more for the same money, then won't they take it? That's all I said..... .... why read into in any futher than you have to.

When saying that I don't know what engine it will have, this is informing you that I dont have a solid source as far as the engine. I said that it could be a NA engine, or they may used the engine of the LS500. I knew that surly one of you would know, and that you would be bale to inform me.

When i said that the super car would be basically a high end supra I ment that it would share interior, and exterior design... And that there has been talk of actually calling int the Supra GT....... Of course the car cant be composed of the same elements and be labeled a supercar.. I'm not as much of an azz as you think.

Never said i knew what toyota wanted in the future, I stated that I was simply taking a guess as far as what they would do about their situation. I never said ... " sey this is what they are going to do because I said so" Or I know they are going to do this" why shouldn;t a person be able to form a hypothisis or educated guess as to what the future holds? Surely one of you would know, and be able to beter inform me... " was my thinking" not resurect past things, and continue to bagger me.

You attack me as if I come up with this information myself. I simply see it elsewhere and broadcaste it here. This is the news, and rumor page!!! you people act as if I create these things.. I simply post and hope for some further enlightened insite. Not to be baggered because I am adding my own thought to what I have seen.

I know nothing of auto's..... I only design them as far as exterior and enterior.. whenever you here me say that a car is another car.. it means as ar as looks, and styling. I could care less about the engeneering, and such... I strictly hold my own as far as design... nothing more.. I can and will be held responsable for any of those judgements. But as far as anything else ... as i;ve said.. I just relay the news..... so I can give you the sources.. and you can go bagger them, and put your foot in their azzes. and slander their names..... So for the secound time... please get on with your lives. and Be happy again....... I love you all.... Now someone please give me positive feedback as far as my comments, remember I have only defended what is rightfully mine, because my credibility was put on the line for things that arent even my origonal idea.. therefor i found myself defending myself because I wanted feedback about someone elses article... so please take that into consideration.....

 

ban him

 

At least now he throws in a paragraph break now and then…

On the topic of the New Supra... here are my thoughts.

1) Yes, it has been demonstrated in the past that the MR2 and Supra can thrive together, so long there is a clear boundary / separation in pricing and perfomance between the two.
So if the MR2 stays relatively close (±10%) to its current price and power levels, then a new Supra starting at about... say $35K should be successful, given a solid advantage in performance.

2) V6 vs. I6 , Turbo vs. NA: While I am sad to see the JZ series motor leaving, I have no doubt that Toyota can get credible performance from a V6. I personally would prefer Forced Induction to NA, given that the new Supra would most likely be a fairly heavy vehicle (think of the MkIV). Whatever actually comes to market however, seems far from clear to me. I will be interested to hear more from Toyota as a release date nears.

3) About a Premium Supra: I question how big the market is for $100K+ supercars. Toyota would benefit from a "halo car" - basically an image booster, and if they want to go for it, then good for them IMO. From what I've heard so far, I'm not convinced it will happen..

 

As for #3, Toyota better do it right. Look at Ford's GT. Now that's how to build a halo car.

 

Very true.
:blah: Go big or go home. Don't do shit by half-measures. Kill or be killed.
All of these apply.

 

wned:

 

:eh: Say what?? You ain't makin' sense to me, boy!

 

I agree there are only a few absolutes in this world. "what has life must die" and of course as human anatomy has noticed. "this world consists of repetitive events, and occurances." -> life is a cycle. IF the 350Z is selling under 30,000 then wouldn;t toyota have to offer just a tab bit more if they decide to price at 35,000?

In my opinion though the nissan has styling comparable to the SC430. Notivce the horizontale slant of the tail lights. and the curvature of the trunks end. even the wheel base, and positioning are simular. I would think that if the styling of the supra dose not change, or is not improved then people will basically feel cheated, and lean towards the competition.

here is a pic of what is supposed to be a 2003 Supra, which I believe is for sale in eur-asia http://www.travel-suite.com/2003-Toyota-Supra.htm to me it looks like a fixed up 1998