ah some more from around here and a few people up in CA that help us out http://www.importreview.com/dyno/1.6/steve.jpg ==

http://www.importreview.com/dyno/1.6/JunB16A.gif --
"Jun type 3 cams, JUN ECU, JUN 4-2-1 stainless header, JUN valve springs
only.
all else totally stock, including intake airbox. No aftermarket cam
gears...totally stock.

By the looks of it, those cams made about 20-25 HP over stock...maybe a
little more.
And I pulled it to 9500 RPM so the valve springs are the best in the
business. "

 

And as i said on honda-tech, just because its never been done doesn't mean it isn't possible what you "idiots" failed to realize is that on a gsr setup, with major bolts on and a dyno as hand you can GET a possible 40+ hp JUST FROM TUNING and i've been tuning for alittle over 2 years now and i've experinced everything from tuning without a wideband, to with one and on a dyno.. so you tell me it can't be proven, i showed proof from a few setups that its possible with great tuning to do anything.. besides 280 whp in a integra is like 11's in the 1/4.. u dont need that much hp to hit 13's and 12's...

 

No you dont.

But show me a 280whp setup with the parts you listed. You show me a setup just as you quoted, and I wont say another word.

So show me a stock bottom end motor, with intake mani, cams and gears and valvetrain...stock head....that makes 280whp.

 

And there you have it. Sucks when you start talking shit and you aren't even talking about the same thing. :chuckles:

ooops

 

I don't dispute the whp/1/4 times. I ran my 12.6 on 260 whp on street tires (Falken Ziex). And I personally saw a gain of 40whp from my basemap to tuned, but that was on boost.

 

The dynos didn't even get over 165 whp. That is a lot less than 280 whp and they have much more done than you.

Again, tuning a stock motor like yours is useless. You will pick up maybe 5-10 whp at the most with those mild bolt ons.

Put your money where your mouth is and stop spreading your propoganda bullshit. We can all see through it.

 

Fake ass wannabe tuner.

 

I think what youre saying is right...you can make good power, and there is even more potential that hasnt been tapped yet on Bseries. Whats even more impressive is that with such low whp you can get in the 11s, 10s, and recently 9s.

What youre wrong about is in making a completely ridiculous statement like 280whp with those modifications. Nothing is impossible, but 280whp NA ITSELF would be an incredible accomplishment, nevermind limited to some mild boltons. That is literally impossible. Thats like saying hey, Ive never seen a 600whp GSR running an 18g, that doesnt mean its impossible. Well, yes, it is impossible.

 

thx..gj on that.. and tuning does do alot..

 

believe what u would like, personally i think those dynos show enough i'm not saying every motor will do that with that setup but i've come across a few that have..but i'm sorry i dont have no pics of them however i'm sure they might be on here..but hey even 200+ on N/A is great, to the guy who made this thread w/e u choose to do make sure it involves good tuning.. and believe me its worth the money of 150 to gain up to 10-40 hp just from fooling with your damn ecu..so find a good tuner and 'waste" that money cause thats what you need..