Turbo, supercharger, N/A¿?¿?¿ what to do
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Originally Posted by IntegraType-R
came on here because honda-tech is full of idiots.. and narrow minded ****s.. i post on here because i like this fourm more people actually post stuff.. and like i said before sorry i do not have proof of the 280 whp all motor teggy's, and i correct a previous statement one guy i talked to today did touch his bottem end with new rings and a block guard or something of that sort i aint sure if he did anything else.. but uhh ya sorry i dont have proof to back up what i said, but i saw it on a dyno so all i have is my word and from the setups i've worked, built and tuned its possible to get 200+ hp over a stock bottem end i'll leave it at that , i hate every single fourm but this one so sorry if my first few post were gay i like this fourm alot.. but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Now...you're telling us that you never had proof for your claim.
Your word is not worth much right now.
If all you're going to do is libel the board, spew misinformation and make unsupportable claims, please leave.
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Originally Posted by Shmoo
Spoon stuff is overpriced IMO. I would drop some JE pistons in there with a compression ratio no larger than 12:1. That is pretty much the threshold for pump gas with good tuning. You will need a standalone ECU to handle the fueling along with an upgraded fuel system. www.nolimitmotorsport.com has some JE pistons with free shipping. I have done business with them and they are very reasonable and they actually called me. :shocked:
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It will be pretty expensive and depending on whether or not you do the installation of the bottom end upgrades, it will make a big difference. For the parts alone, expect to pay more than $3000 which would include the pistons, rings, connecting rods, fuel injectors, fuel pressure regulator, fuel pump, Hondata, etc. The tuning, chipping of the ECU, installation of parts, etc will run you another $1500 or more. I don't know much about N/A and the price of labor for the installation and tuning, but it isn't cheap.
For the price of all that, I would much rather piece together my own turbo kit and run Hondata and be putting down over 100 hp more to the wheels. But that is just me, and if you plan on going N/A be prepared to spend a lot of money.
Also, how many miles does the engine have? It might be a good idea to do a full rebuild before you plan on doing all this. It is better to be safe than sorry especially considering the amount of money involved.
For the price of all that, I would much rather piece together my own turbo kit and run Hondata and be putting down over 100 hp more to the wheels. But that is just me, and if you plan on going N/A be prepared to spend a lot of money.
Also, how many miles does the engine have? It might be a good idea to do a full rebuild before you plan on doing all this. It is better to be safe than sorry especially considering the amount of money involved.
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You are going to have to get it tuned professionally on a dyno either way but boost with low compression slugs leaves a lot more margin for error, so that would be the best choice. If you want more power for less money, boost is the way to go.
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so could rebuild it and turbo it tune it what other things would i need to get if i got a kit like the greddy kit. sorry if ive been over this once but would things change with the lower c/r pistons
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I have the Greddy kit on completely stock internals and my engine has 135k miles on it. If you have to worry about smog, get the Greddy kit. Otherwise, go for something with a larger turbo for better power and the lower compression pistons so you can run higher boost. You don't need a rebuild if you are running the Greddy kit unless you have poor compression/static leakdown numbers. Get those two tests done and that will help you determine whether you should rebuild first.
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They provide a solid fueling management system but to unleash the potential of the kit, I recommend a standalone ECU. The HP will not increase much but the torque numbers will become respectable. Keep in mind that the kit is only good for about 280 whp, so if you aren't satisfied with that down the road, you should look into a kit that has more flexability, power-wise.