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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 08:28 PM
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okay.... so will this 6 1/2 fit without modifications?
Old Dec 4, 2002 | 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by rcurley55
I'm sorry, but that's not 100% accurate...try to get a set of Illusion Audio mids into that door and you will have a problem as well....while they may be one of the most shallow drivers around, they have extrememly wide baskets....remember you need to account for more then just depth.

I tired to get some IDQ62's in my doors in my civic...the magnet wouldn't fit through the door in the hole...the depth was fine...but the acutal magnet didn't fit....sheesh
I stand corrected, I shouldn't have said "any" I should have said "most", my bad.
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Originally posted by Matt86
okay.... so will this 6 1/2 fit without modifications?
so long as the mounting depth is 2" or less. the magnet isn't huge and the basket is normal size
Old Dec 4, 2002 | 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by 94uhkord
I stand corrected, I shouldn't have said "any" I should have said "most", my bad.
I'm just messin' with ya....
Old Dec 4, 2002 | 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by 94uhkord
so long as the mounting depth is 2" or less. the magnet isn't huge and the basket is normal size
i went to crutchfield and they said that the speakers would not fit my car... do i have to do any modification now??? or will they just not fit at all
Old Dec 4, 2002 | 09:13 PM
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damnit this is confusing as hell... crutchfield said they wouldn't fit and sound domain said that they will fit with no modification or anything at all... wtf?
Old Dec 5, 2002 | 05:23 AM
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Okay I think that you may be look at this the wrong way. There is some plastic that hold your speakers in the door. This is called the rain gaurd, because it's suppost to keep rain off the speaker. See that the factory speaker's cone is made out of paper this is needed. But when you upgrade your speakers you don't have to worry about that, because most of the speaker out ther should have a water proof cone.

I know that Crutchfield said that they wouldn't fit, but I'll bet ya my car they will fit. I just installed a set of Focal 130K into the door of a 5th Gen Hatch. Well always we had to cut the rain gaurd but after that everything fit's fine. Those speakers are around 3" deep, so don't sweet it go buy the speaker that you want knowing they are going to fit. :thumbup:

This is not true. You can mount any speaker that is a 6.5" or smaller in the opening, provided it is not deeper than 2". There are very few 6.5's that are that shallow, but the best ones I've found so far are the Kenwood DualMags, model #KFC-XR600. They are 6 1/2" and have a very shallow mounting depth, no mods are necessary for them to fit the front doors at all. Just plug and play. The sweet thing about these speakers besides the shallow depth is the fact that you can power the tweets from a separate amp from the woofer and the tweet isn't riding on the same axis as the woofer so you get more excursion from the woofer and less distortion. Im on my second set, I love em. The first set was in my 4th gen civic that got stolen and raped, I just got some for my 5th Gen Accord.
Okay I should stated that a different way. Okay, any speaker worth having in my view you need to cut the rain gaurd. If you like the Kenwood Daul-Mags more power to ya, but they aren't my cup of tea. If you're waiting a simple drop in I like and own the JL TR600s. For retail about 120 bucks they are one the best sounding drop-in replacement speakers out there.

I tired to get some IDQ62's in my doors in my civic...the magnet wouldn't fit through the door in the hole...the depth was fine...but the acutal magnet didn't fit....sheesh
Really? I had a pari of ID6's in the door of my old CRX. If you really want to get them there I think that would fit. Did you try taking the door panel off and then mounting them? I had to make a custom speaker mounting ring out of MDF to get them in there. But hey they fit and sounded great, some Dnyamat would have helped a little bit.
Old Dec 5, 2002 | 06:03 AM
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Originally posted by Matt86
damnit this is confusing as hell... crutchfield said they wouldn't fit and sound domain said that they will fit with no modification or anything at all... wtf?
If you cut the basket, or remove it altogether, this won't be an issue, depending on what speakers you choose. From the sounds of it, you're just looking for an upgrade, not some sq capable type stuff. That being said, if you stick w/a speaker that is 2-3" deep, the only mod you'll hve to do is either cut the basket or remove it altogether and use a mdf baffle instead. It may sound difficult, but it's very simple.
Old Dec 5, 2002 | 06:42 AM
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Originally posted by Buckman
Really? I had a pari of ID6's in the door of my old CRX. If you really want to get them there I think that would fit. Did you try taking the door panel off and then mounting them? I had to make a custom speaker mounting ring out of MDF to get them in there. But hey they fit and sounded great, some Dnyamat would have helped a little bit.
This is a 00 Si, if you are familiar with this car, you know how small the speaker openings are.....

Without trimming metal on the door panel (and thereby weakening the plastic door panel - where the driver mounts), it's not possible to get these drivers in the door. The magnet is larger then the physical opening in the door.

This type of mounting gives no MDF option. The basket barely clears, but the magnet is just too large, seeing as that driver has the same motor as an IDQ8 if I'm not mistaken. The same is true for a ID CX62 mid.

I'm going with kicks anyway, but a while back, I wanted CXS52's in kicks and CX62's in the doors for dedicated midbasses...now I'm working on the horn setup below...

Could I have gotten them in the door with extensive modification, YES, but I was and am still aiming for an installation that allows me to return to near stock conditions......Also, with the amount of work necessary to do them correctly, I would have just build new panels for 8"s and gotten serious about it...
Old Dec 5, 2002 | 07:28 AM
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Originally posted by rcurley55
This is a 00 Si, if you are familiar with this car, you know how small the speaker openings are.....

Without trimming metal on the door panel (and thereby weakening the plastic door panel - where the driver mounts), it's not possible to get these drivers in the door. The magnet is larger then the physical opening in the door.

This type of mounting gives no MDF option. The basket barely clears, but the magnet is just too large, seeing as that driver has the same motor as an IDQ8 if I'm not mistaken. The same is true for a ID CX62 mid.

I'm going with kicks anyway, but a while back, I wanted CXS52's in kicks and CX62's in the doors for dedicated midbasses...now I'm working on the horn setup below...

Could I have gotten them in the door with extensive modification, YES, but I was and am still aiming for an installation that allows me to return to near stock conditions......Also, with the amount of work necessary to do them correctly, I would have just build new panels for 8"s and gotten serious about it...
Yes I know the car, it fact I've worked on them before. If you want to put the CX62 in your door and still have a factory look. It can be done. I know because I've done it. It takes some time to pull it off but you just have to think outside the box to do it. Do this, take your door panel off. Look at where the speaker is you will see that there is some black plastic holding the speaker in place. If you unscrew that and thats only four screws you'll see that there is a hole almost big enough to mount a 8" diver in. It's bigger enough for any 6 1/2 on the market, now if you don't put the plastic piece back in the car and make a MDF baffle you see that you can put the whole door panel back on and it doesn't look like anything has changed from the factory look. Now just to back what I've said up, I've worked in car audio for years and done installs like this. Sometime to get the best in there you have to think a little bit and do some problem solving, but it all will work out in the end. I know that can be done and if you still don't think so I'll be happy to do a DIY on this in my 97 EX because it has the same doors as your 00 Si. I fact I have a pair of ID6 the speakers that the CX62 were based on at home that I could use. Trust me, you can put them in there just look at it from a different angle.



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