2004 Solara vs. 2003 Accord
chris is the devil
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Originally posted by see_fu
had a 6th gen accord. full of clutch and electrical problems from teh beginning. Just bought a 7th gen accord. Radio already died, rear window leaking.
Owned a 93 Previa, never took it in for a tune up still going strong at 170k. have a 00 camry, not one problem.
I'm speaking completely from my own experience. Honda doesn't have what it takes to compete w/ toyota when it comes to reliability.
had a 6th gen accord. full of clutch and electrical problems from teh beginning. Just bought a 7th gen accord. Radio already died, rear window leaking.
Owned a 93 Previa, never took it in for a tune up still going strong at 170k. have a 00 camry, not one problem.
I'm speaking completely from my own experience. Honda doesn't have what it takes to compete w/ toyota when it comes to reliability.
I feel toyotas do better in the long run as well... less problems to deal with. Parents 2001 Camry with 80k miles has gone in for regular preventative maintenance w/o one glitch.. Not a single problem.
But like always... people base their opinions on personal experience(or at least should)... and so....
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Honda vs Toyota: Reliability
From what I have seen the Honda takes the cake in the realiability catagory, at LEAST in the civic, accord vs celica, camry.
I would keep an accord over a camry ANYDAY (Past models, haven't driven the new models so can't judge on those). Camry felt like I was driving a boat, it was VERY slow in accel compared to the accord. And the camry was a pain in the ass, had to go VERY VERY slow over speed bumps at a stock ride height while my friends civic w/ a 2" drop can go right over them with no problems. The new solara (from what I can see in the pics above) looks alright, like it a little more (looks wise) than the new accords...I can't stand the tail ends of the new accords. I don't know if I could compare the Accord with a Grand Prix though....maybe a grand am, but not a grand prix, and especially not a bonneville. Around here old people drive the boat cars..IE Cadillac, Lincoln, Mercury, Camry, Malibu, Bonneville, ect.... I'm not saying Toyota is not reliable, they are, but from my experience Hondas have been MORE reliable.
5th Gen Accord Problems: Passenger Power window motor went out, took to dealer fixed immediatly
(Dunno about Factory stereo, replaced with aftermarket)
98 Camry Problems: Driver door Power Lock malfunctioned, could not lock or unluck vehicle, had to either climb in through passenger side, or open back door reach and unlock manually. (kept over night)
Driver Door Handle (outside) went out. Again had to climb in from passenger side or open back door and reach to open from inside.
(kept over night)
Piece that holds window/ lock controls loose, worked its way out, had to push it back in every day. (didn't feel like spending money to replace)
Not a good seal around windows, made a TON of wind noise while driving. (if screwed around with window height long enough it would get a "good" seal)
Clip/spring for gas door broke so would not "pop" open when you pulled the gas door release. (fixed immediatley...i would hope so, damn $10.00 for a piece of plastic with a little spring on it)
Bottomed out at slightest speed bumps (if going any faster than CREEPING)
Friends Celica was a NIGHTMARE, would list but prob be a page long
Civic....No problems, for anyone i know that drives one for that matter
From what I have seen the Honda takes the cake in the realiability catagory, at LEAST in the civic, accord vs celica, camry.
I would keep an accord over a camry ANYDAY (Past models, haven't driven the new models so can't judge on those). Camry felt like I was driving a boat, it was VERY slow in accel compared to the accord. And the camry was a pain in the ass, had to go VERY VERY slow over speed bumps at a stock ride height while my friends civic w/ a 2" drop can go right over them with no problems. The new solara (from what I can see in the pics above) looks alright, like it a little more (looks wise) than the new accords...I can't stand the tail ends of the new accords. I don't know if I could compare the Accord with a Grand Prix though....maybe a grand am, but not a grand prix, and especially not a bonneville. Around here old people drive the boat cars..IE Cadillac, Lincoln, Mercury, Camry, Malibu, Bonneville, ect.... I'm not saying Toyota is not reliable, they are, but from my experience Hondas have been MORE reliable.
5th Gen Accord Problems: Passenger Power window motor went out, took to dealer fixed immediatly
(Dunno about Factory stereo, replaced with aftermarket)
98 Camry Problems: Driver door Power Lock malfunctioned, could not lock or unluck vehicle, had to either climb in through passenger side, or open back door reach and unlock manually. (kept over night)
Driver Door Handle (outside) went out. Again had to climb in from passenger side or open back door and reach to open from inside.
(kept over night)
Piece that holds window/ lock controls loose, worked its way out, had to push it back in every day. (didn't feel like spending money to replace)
Not a good seal around windows, made a TON of wind noise while driving. (if screwed around with window height long enough it would get a "good" seal)
Clip/spring for gas door broke so would not "pop" open when you pulled the gas door release. (fixed immediatley...i would hope so, damn $10.00 for a piece of plastic with a little spring on it)
Bottomed out at slightest speed bumps (if going any faster than CREEPING)
Friends Celica was a NIGHTMARE, would list but prob be a page long
Civic....No problems, for anyone i know that drives one for that matter
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Lexus, Infiniti, Acura....if i'm not mistaken these are the EXACT same companies as: Toyota, Nissan, Honda. You can usually even tell what their higher end equivilents are because they look almost exactly the same, just slightly different details, better interior materials, and a different name badge, but when it comes down to engineering they are the SAME cars!!!
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From: so cal 951 + 760
Originally posted by filmpunk18
Honda vs Toyota: Reliability
From what I have seen the Honda takes the cake in the realiability catagory, at LEAST in the civic, accord vs celica, camry.
I would keep an accord over a camry ANYDAY (Past models, haven't driven the new models so can't judge on those). Camry felt like I was driving a boat, it was VERY slow in accel compared to the accord. And the camry was a pain in the ass, had to go VERY VERY slow over speed bumps at a stock ride height while my friends civic w/ a 2" drop can go right over them with no problems. The new solara (from what I can see in the pics above) looks alright, like it a little more (looks wise) than the new accords...I can't stand the tail ends of the new accords. I don't know if I could compare the Accord with a Grand Prix though....maybe a grand am, but not a grand prix, and especially not a bonneville. Around here old people drive the boat cars..IE Cadillac, Lincoln, Mercury, Camry, Malibu, Bonneville, ect.... I'm not saying Toyota is not reliable, they are, but from my experience Hondas have been MORE reliable.
5th Gen Accord Problems: Passenger Power window motor went out, took to dealer fixed immediatly
(Dunno about Factory stereo, replaced with aftermarket)
98 Camry Problems: Driver door Power Lock malfunctioned, could not lock or unluck vehicle, had to either climb in through passenger side, or open back door reach and unlock manually. (kept over night)
Driver Door Handle (outside) went out. Again had to climb in from passenger side or open back door and reach to open from inside.
(kept over night)
Piece that holds window/ lock controls loose, worked its way out, had to push it back in every day. (didn't feel like spending money to replace)
Not a good seal around windows, made a TON of wind noise while driving. (if screwed around with window height long enough it would get a "good" seal)
Clip/spring for gas door broke so would not "pop" open when you pulled the gas door release. (fixed immediatley...i would hope so, damn $10.00 for a piece of plastic with a little spring on it)
Bottomed out at slightest speed bumps (if going any faster than CREEPING)
Friends Celica was a NIGHTMARE, would list but prob be a page long
Civic....No problems, for anyone i know that drives one for that matter
Honda vs Toyota: Reliability
From what I have seen the Honda takes the cake in the realiability catagory, at LEAST in the civic, accord vs celica, camry.
I would keep an accord over a camry ANYDAY (Past models, haven't driven the new models so can't judge on those). Camry felt like I was driving a boat, it was VERY slow in accel compared to the accord. And the camry was a pain in the ass, had to go VERY VERY slow over speed bumps at a stock ride height while my friends civic w/ a 2" drop can go right over them with no problems. The new solara (from what I can see in the pics above) looks alright, like it a little more (looks wise) than the new accords...I can't stand the tail ends of the new accords. I don't know if I could compare the Accord with a Grand Prix though....maybe a grand am, but not a grand prix, and especially not a bonneville. Around here old people drive the boat cars..IE Cadillac, Lincoln, Mercury, Camry, Malibu, Bonneville, ect.... I'm not saying Toyota is not reliable, they are, but from my experience Hondas have been MORE reliable.
5th Gen Accord Problems: Passenger Power window motor went out, took to dealer fixed immediatly
(Dunno about Factory stereo, replaced with aftermarket)
98 Camry Problems: Driver door Power Lock malfunctioned, could not lock or unluck vehicle, had to either climb in through passenger side, or open back door reach and unlock manually. (kept over night)
Driver Door Handle (outside) went out. Again had to climb in from passenger side or open back door and reach to open from inside.
(kept over night)
Piece that holds window/ lock controls loose, worked its way out, had to push it back in every day. (didn't feel like spending money to replace)
Not a good seal around windows, made a TON of wind noise while driving. (if screwed around with window height long enough it would get a "good" seal)
Clip/spring for gas door broke so would not "pop" open when you pulled the gas door release. (fixed immediatley...i would hope so, damn $10.00 for a piece of plastic with a little spring on it)
Bottomed out at slightest speed bumps (if going any faster than CREEPING)
Friends Celica was a NIGHTMARE, would list but prob be a page long
Civic....No problems, for anyone i know that drives one for that matter
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From: In Your Girlfriend's Snatch
Moderator, please close this thread down; it is becoming a personal bashing fest and wasn't meant for that, please...I didnt even realize there was a topic started already, in the trends archives, about Solara vs. Accord; I never would have launched a new one to get people's personal automotive bias blood boiling....I apologize for beginning a topic which was already covered....
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From: In Your Girlfriend's Snatch
my bad....seems people are discussing different Toyota vs. Honda issues here; it really wasnt meant to start any offensive wars between people and their chariots of choice---was originally just supposed to be Solara vs. Accord, styling wise, and how I thought the Solara had more, well, "street presence"...if you wish to shut this discussion down, please do so...I didnt mean to get people rialed up into a Buick vs. Toyota vs. Honda debate....
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From: Cleveland, Ohio - Rock 'n Roll capitol of the World
Originally posted by Samson
Bland styling is all subjective....... The camry is not as soft etc.. as a Buick LeSabre.
Bland styling is all subjective....... The camry is not as soft etc.. as a Buick LeSabre.
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From: So. Cali
Originally posted by filmpunk18
Honda vs Toyota: Reliability
From what I have seen the Honda takes the cake in the realiability catagory, at LEAST in the civic, accord vs celica, camry.
I would keep an accord over a camry ANYDAY (Past models, haven't driven the new models so can't judge on those). Camry felt like I was driving a boat, it was VERY slow in accel compared to the accord. And the camry was a pain in the ass, had to go VERY VERY slow over speed bumps at a stock ride height while my friends civic w/ a 2" drop can go right over them with no problems. The new solara (from what I can see in the pics above) looks alright, like it a little more (looks wise) than the new accords...I can't stand the tail ends of the new accords. I don't know if I could compare the Accord with a Grand Prix though....maybe a grand am, but not a grand prix, and especially not a bonneville. Around here old people drive the boat cars..IE Cadillac, Lincoln, Mercury, Camry, Malibu, Bonneville, ect.... I'm not saying Toyota is not reliable, they are, but from my experience Hondas have been MORE reliable.
5th Gen Accord Problems: Passenger Power window motor went out, took to dealer fixed immediatly
(Dunno about Factory stereo, replaced with aftermarket)
98 Camry Problems: Driver door Power Lock malfunctioned, could not lock or unluck vehicle, had to either climb in through passenger side, or open back door reach and unlock manually. (kept over night)
Driver Door Handle (outside) went out. Again had to climb in from passenger side or open back door and reach to open from inside.
(kept over night)
Piece that holds window/ lock controls loose, worked its way out, had to push it back in every day. (didn't feel like spending money to replace)
Not a good seal around windows, made a TON of wind noise while driving. (if screwed around with window height long enough it would get a "good" seal)
Clip/spring for gas door broke so would not "pop" open when you pulled the gas door release. (fixed immediatley...i would hope so, damn $10.00 for a piece of plastic with a little spring on it)
Bottomed out at slightest speed bumps (if going any faster than CREEPING)
Friends Celica was a NIGHTMARE, would list but prob be a page long
Civic....No problems, for anyone i know that drives one for that matter
Honda vs Toyota: Reliability
From what I have seen the Honda takes the cake in the realiability catagory, at LEAST in the civic, accord vs celica, camry.
I would keep an accord over a camry ANYDAY (Past models, haven't driven the new models so can't judge on those). Camry felt like I was driving a boat, it was VERY slow in accel compared to the accord. And the camry was a pain in the ass, had to go VERY VERY slow over speed bumps at a stock ride height while my friends civic w/ a 2" drop can go right over them with no problems. The new solara (from what I can see in the pics above) looks alright, like it a little more (looks wise) than the new accords...I can't stand the tail ends of the new accords. I don't know if I could compare the Accord with a Grand Prix though....maybe a grand am, but not a grand prix, and especially not a bonneville. Around here old people drive the boat cars..IE Cadillac, Lincoln, Mercury, Camry, Malibu, Bonneville, ect.... I'm not saying Toyota is not reliable, they are, but from my experience Hondas have been MORE reliable.
5th Gen Accord Problems: Passenger Power window motor went out, took to dealer fixed immediatly
(Dunno about Factory stereo, replaced with aftermarket)
98 Camry Problems: Driver door Power Lock malfunctioned, could not lock or unluck vehicle, had to either climb in through passenger side, or open back door reach and unlock manually. (kept over night)
Driver Door Handle (outside) went out. Again had to climb in from passenger side or open back door and reach to open from inside.
(kept over night)
Piece that holds window/ lock controls loose, worked its way out, had to push it back in every day. (didn't feel like spending money to replace)
Not a good seal around windows, made a TON of wind noise while driving. (if screwed around with window height long enough it would get a "good" seal)
Clip/spring for gas door broke so would not "pop" open when you pulled the gas door release. (fixed immediatley...i would hope so, damn $10.00 for a piece of plastic with a little spring on it)
Bottomed out at slightest speed bumps (if going any faster than CREEPING)
Friends Celica was a NIGHTMARE, would list but prob be a page long
Civic....No problems, for anyone i know that drives one for that matter
