my bad....seems people are discussing different Toyota vs. Honda issues here; it really wasnt meant to start any offensive wars between people and their chariots of choice---was originally just supposed to be Solara vs. Accord, styling wise, and how I thought the Solara had more, well, "street presence"...if you wish to shut this discussion down, please do so...I didnt mean to get people rialed up into a Buick vs. Toyota vs. Honda debate....