yeah... h22 first

 

As Decible said we had a hell of a thread going about the H22 vs turbo F series and basicall the H22 won out regardless.

The gains from a swap versus a bolt on turbo are identical but the benefits are immense from the H22.

A turbo always requires a few things besides the higher maintenence factor. The engine should ALWAYS be built from the inside out to handle the turbo application....I stress ALWAYS!! I am sick of seeing people blow perfectly good motors then complain about the hazards of a turbo engine when they themselves did not take the neccesary precautions.

In all honesty if you do not know the inherent differences between a turbo motor and an NA motor, or you have never had a high performance setup (this is my guess from the way you asked the question) then stay with the swap and keep it NA until you get more familiar with the differences and the pros and cons of each setup.

 

yeah, but the averages are in my favor. the avg, person drives 15,000 a year which in 8 years is 120K or in his case being a 94 135k.

anyways, the shop that did my swap says they could have gotten me more power for the same money from a custom turbo kit on my f22b1. there are 6th gen owners putting over 200 whp with 10lbs of boost from turbo kits. so i believe it. my only problem is the questionable reliabilty of a turbo on a motor with 100k+ that was never designed to be turboed.

 

h22's are overrated.....u could get more out of a turbo on the f22, so what if its high maintenance :fawk:

 

I have a 97 with 80000 miles on it.
i think i will most likly do the swap. anyone know where i can get a good deal on a complete swap?

 

well, I don't think H22 is overated at all. Comparing to 10-40 hp difference that a turbo application may have over H22, it still require a lot of maintenance. That, in turn, would cost you more. H22 is a better option regarding to simple setup and availability for better options. This guy at the shop bought my previous 95 EX and did a T4 turbo on it plus all other stuff (port and polished the manifolds, etc). It came out to be somewhere near 240 whp. However, the F22b can't take it and blew up 2 mo. ago at 95k miles. Now he just replace it with an H22 and rebuilded it to Naturual Aspiration, which yield about 260+/- HP without turboing. He plan to go for turbo later on, but right now, the car run great without any regular maintenance like he had to before.

So H22 is definitely a WISER choice, though in my option, it's only a 2L engine, compare the the old 2.2L h: oh well. I own one, and I love it.

 

who are u asking? i have a 5sp

 

since when? my boosted F23 put out 221hp and 238ft/lbs. stock block running 10lbs. last i checked the H22 with bolt-ons made around 180hp and 160ft/lbs MAX. i wouldnt consider a 41hp and 78ft/lbs difference to be about equal. i walk plenty of Preludes. i've also done plenty more upgrades since my last dyno numbers. those numbers are with an FMAX kit and exhaust. and a $20 manual boost controller. yeah maybe the turbo needs to change the oil a little more. my friend changes the oil in his Lude with synthetic. i am assuming it needs synthetic with the higher compression. and both need Premium fuel. theres no difference there

i would like to know the advantages of an H22 over a boosted F22/23. i'll give you the advantages of the boosted F23

1. more power
2. more power
3. more power

btw. my car has been boosted for over a year. 100,035 miles on it. and full compression in all 4 cylinders

 

i would love to see the dyno sheet for that. 2point6 has every imaginable thing you can do to run an H22 NA and he makes 225hp. i guess he doesnt have ITB's. thats about all. bored, stroked, raised compression, standalone, yadda yadda yadda. so show me a dyno sheet and i'll believe it. until then its bullshit

 

My H22 is going up to 248 by the end of this month....difference being is that it is constant power.....no waiting for the turbo to spool up and kick in...no added maintenence...oh and I started at 185hp to the wheels.

Not trying to be difficult but just saying the stability in an NA motor vs a boosted motor is enormously different and if you read his original post you will see why I recommend the swap over the turbo........he is lacking knowledge of how it all works in general and may cause more harm than good.

BTW you don't mention in your post but I assume you also had your internals gone through before the boost was hooked up....right?