Legend calipers transplant
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I am preparing to do a NSX caliper swap. My current calipers are the same size as the Integra Type R and have a 25T bracket.
I want to use NSX calipers and Legend rotors (28mm) So can I just use the NSX 28T caliper bracket with NSX calipers on the 28mm Legend rotors and not have to shim anything?
If I use the stock size 25T bracket on the NSX caliper can I just use the stock 25mm rotor and have a perfect fit aswell?
To my understanding, you can make a caliper fit a rotor depending on what bracket you use. If thats true, then by using a 25T bracket on calipers that are made to fit 28mm rotors (like Legend/NSX) you can make the (28mm) caliper fit a thinner (25mm) rotor properly. When I say properly, I mean without shimming or making the piston compress and lock 5mm.
This also makes me think that you can use a 28T bracket on NSX calipers and a 28mm rotor and not have to shim
Migs can you verify this, I know you are running 28mm rotors and NSX brakes but I'm not sure what bracket you are running.
Also, I thought that ITR rotors were 23mm? Then why does my bracket say 25T? Shouldn't it say 23T?
I want to use NSX calipers and Legend rotors (28mm) So can I just use the NSX 28T caliper bracket with NSX calipers on the 28mm Legend rotors and not have to shim anything?
If I use the stock size 25T bracket on the NSX caliper can I just use the stock 25mm rotor and have a perfect fit aswell?
To my understanding, you can make a caliper fit a rotor depending on what bracket you use. If thats true, then by using a 25T bracket on calipers that are made to fit 28mm rotors (like Legend/NSX) you can make the (28mm) caliper fit a thinner (25mm) rotor properly. When I say properly, I mean without shimming or making the piston compress and lock 5mm.
This also makes me think that you can use a 28T bracket on NSX calipers and a 28mm rotor and not have to shim
Migs can you verify this, I know you are running 28mm rotors and NSX brakes but I'm not sure what bracket you are running.
Also, I thought that ITR rotors were 23mm? Then why does my bracket say 25T? Shouldn't it say 23T?
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Migs made a good point about the reason for the different size pistons and why flipping the caliper is necessary.
I noticed something confusing in regards to the Legend Calipers I would like to clear up for everyone.
If you want the Legend Dual Piston Caliper They are found on :
1993-1995 Coupes both L and LS trim. *THERE IS NO GS COUPE!*
1994-1995 GS Sedans.
The above where the "Type II" equiped Legends with the 230hp engine and optional 6-Speed Manual Transmission.
Finding the Coupes will be much easier since all 1993-1995 Coupes are Type II's where as only the very rare GS Sedan was the only Type II Sedan.
1991-1995 NSX Calipers will also work and are preferred but are more expensive.
PSPEC,
If you want to use the NSX caliper and Legend rotor go with the Legend's caliper braket. I personally think that would be your best bet.
When I had my Legend a few friends from a forum on Legend.Org did an NSX caliper swap on there Legend's. They only swapped calipers which leaves me to assume that if you are using the Legend rotor and braket the NSX caliper will work fine in your configuration.
And I don't think the ITR's rotors are 23mm thick either they should be thicker new at least 25 or 26mm's.
I noticed something confusing in regards to the Legend Calipers I would like to clear up for everyone.
If you want the Legend Dual Piston Caliper They are found on :
1993-1995 Coupes both L and LS trim. *THERE IS NO GS COUPE!*
1994-1995 GS Sedans.
The above where the "Type II" equiped Legends with the 230hp engine and optional 6-Speed Manual Transmission.
Finding the Coupes will be much easier since all 1993-1995 Coupes are Type II's where as only the very rare GS Sedan was the only Type II Sedan.
1991-1995 NSX Calipers will also work and are preferred but are more expensive.
PSPEC,
If you want to use the NSX caliper and Legend rotor go with the Legend's caliper braket. I personally think that would be your best bet.
When I had my Legend a few friends from a forum on Legend.Org did an NSX caliper swap on there Legend's. They only swapped calipers which leaves me to assume that if you are using the Legend rotor and braket the NSX caliper will work fine in your configuration.
And I don't think the ITR's rotors are 23mm thick either they should be thicker new at least 25 or 26mm's.
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Originally posted by BustedLX
If you want to use the NSX caliper and Legend rotor go with the Legend's caliper braket. I personally think that would be your best bet.
When I had my Legend a few friends from a forum on Legend.Org did an NSX caliper swap on there Legend's. They only swapped calipers which leaves me to assume that if you are using the Legend rotor and braket the NSX caliper will work fine in your configuration.
And I don't think the ITR's rotors are 23mm thick either they should be thicker new at least 25 or 26mm's.
If you want to use the NSX caliper and Legend rotor go with the Legend's caliper braket. I personally think that would be your best bet.
When I had my Legend a few friends from a forum on Legend.Org did an NSX caliper swap on there Legend's. They only swapped calipers which leaves me to assume that if you are using the Legend rotor and braket the NSX caliper will work fine in your configuration.
And I don't think the ITR's rotors are 23mm thick either they should be thicker new at least 25 or 26mm's.
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PSPEC,
This was four years ago and since then the forum has switched softwares. They used to use vBulletian which is just like this and that's when I frequented the site but when they switched to that new software I just stoped going. I never liked it and they lost there archieve.
You could always start a new post.
About the ITR rotors. You are right that in most cases the outside and inside edge of the rotor don't wear because the pad's surface does not make contact there but when they are resurfaced they are completely leveled. Maybe yours have been resurfaced.
What is the minimum thickness for those rotors? It should be stamped on them.
This was four years ago and since then the forum has switched softwares. They used to use vBulletian which is just like this and that's when I frequented the site but when they switched to that new software I just stoped going. I never liked it and they lost there archieve.
You could always start a new post.
About the ITR rotors. You are right that in most cases the outside and inside edge of the rotor don't wear because the pad's surface does not make contact there but when they are resurfaced they are completely leveled. Maybe yours have been resurfaced.
What is the minimum thickness for those rotors? It should be stamped on them.
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Well I checked the rotor for a stamp and there isn't any. I got out the digital camera and took some shots for you guys though.
The Caliper Notice the bracket says 25T
The Rotor, I measured it for the camera 23mm
I think that honda just uses 25T brackets on 23mm rotors so its easier to slip the caliper over the rotor. Afterall its only 2mm we are talking about here.
I have also read around plenty of other posts that say ITR/5G prelude use 23mm thick rotors.
The Caliper Notice the bracket says 25T
The Rotor, I measured it for the camera 23mm
I think that honda just uses 25T brackets on 23mm rotors so its easier to slip the caliper over the rotor. Afterall its only 2mm we are talking about here.
I have also read around plenty of other posts that say ITR/5G prelude use 23mm thick rotors.
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The legend forum uses vbulletin the site just changed, http://www.legend-forum.com/vbulleti...ight=nsx+brake
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Those legend guys are running the Type II rotor (28mm 93-95 legend rotor) with NSX caliper and they arn't having any problems requiring shimming.
I got this in an email from a Legend guy that did the swap
"Hey man,
I installed GS spec rotors on my car, and the NSX calipers. The NSX calipers fit perfect because the NSX rotor and GS rotor are the same thickness. The pads are compatible along the line also. Good luck with your conversion.... Jason"
I got this in an email from a Legend guy that did the swap
"Hey man,
I installed GS spec rotors on my car, and the NSX calipers. The NSX calipers fit perfect because the NSX rotor and GS rotor are the same thickness. The pads are compatible along the line also. Good luck with your conversion.... Jason"
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See Told you 
I'm glad to see Legend.Org went back to vBullettin that other software sucked nads.
Iguess it makes sense the rotors are 23mm. I just assumed they would be thicker because of the added power. But guess not. With the Legend and NSX's V6 the thicker rotor was necessary.
Anyhow good luck with the front conversion. I know I'll be doing it as soon as I get my 18's.
I'm glad to see Legend.Org went back to vBullettin that other software sucked nads.
Iguess it makes sense the rotors are 23mm. I just assumed they would be thicker because of the added power. But guess not. With the Legend and NSX's V6 the thicker rotor was necessary.
Anyhow good luck with the front conversion. I know I'll be doing it as soon as I get my 18's.