is there anyway to
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From: Mesa, AZ
Originally Posted by polakatl
What do u want the 13s to be used for? Id it just a time slip at the drag strip or u actually want to utelize the quickness daily.
I'm always agains H22 if u have a good F23 engine. Looking at power vs money a turbo F23 will smoke a NA H22. Both will cost about the same and with the H22 stock engine u are just at 200hp @ the fly and little torque. I have seen simple turbo setups on the F23 dyno at 200+whp and 200+torque. They actually showed more torque then hp which is light and day compared to the natural low Honda torque.
Boost the hell out of the F23 and later on when u have more money just up the boost until that engine dies and then possibly swap in the H22, but I would start with the perfectly good engine that u have in there now.
I'm always agains H22 if u have a good F23 engine. Looking at power vs money a turbo F23 will smoke a NA H22. Both will cost about the same and with the H22 stock engine u are just at 200hp @ the fly and little torque. I have seen simple turbo setups on the F23 dyno at 200+whp and 200+torque. They actually showed more torque then hp which is light and day compared to the natural low Honda torque.
Boost the hell out of the F23 and later on when u have more money just up the boost until that engine dies and then possibly swap in the H22, but I would start with the perfectly good engine that u have in there now.
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From: Ashland, OR
Originally Posted by bubbrubb
Get a 6 gen to become a 13 second car? even if its high 13's, is there any way to get it there? I've been asking about dropping an h22 in lately, but the response im getting is, it would take a lot of custome fabrication to fit it in my car. So the second route i thought i should take is boost to 7-9psi, and throw a turbo in, but is that safe as a daily driver? Also, people say that you can do other turning to your engine to gain power or what not. One would to buy a vtec controler, and make my vtec engage earlier. But if my vtec engaged earlier would it make any difference? cuz no matter what, im only going to get a certain amount of power out of vtec anyways, right? I was also thinking about n2o, but seeing as im in california, and the juice is super illegal 'round here, thats out of the question. So yeah, any suggestions you guys got, post 'em!
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Yeah i live in cali, and swap arent illegal here. The turbo's are a little different, but still arent illegal if you get them dynoed, and turned up so that are carb legal. I mean, think about it, if turbos were illegal, would they sell stock cars with f/i? like the 03 cobra, or twin turboed supras.
Heres a page that explains it, even tho its mostly about trucks, you can see how its very relevant to imports also.
http://www.jagsthatrun.com/Pages/Che..._V-8_Smog.html
Heres a page that explains it, even tho its mostly about trucks, you can see how its very relevant to imports also.
http://www.jagsthatrun.com/Pages/Che..._V-8_Smog.html
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The article sounds like your emissions still have to be the same as stock. I don't think unless your boost is turned down A LOT you'll pass the emissions test. I guess we'll see though. Good luck man.
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From: Atlanta/Statesboro
Originally Posted by big_eskimo
The article sounds like your emissions still have to be the same as stock. I don't think unless your boost is turned down A LOT you'll pass the emissions test. I guess we'll see though. Good luck man.
If u turn down the boost a LOT then all of the exhasut gasses will escape through ur wastegate into free space and the examiner is gonna say WTF there is barely any exhaust in ur pipe. ULEV for u
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From: Bethlehem PA
My other car is a 98 GTI Vr6 turbo'd body w/ a 95 engine. I've never ran the 1/4 with it since my brother, his friends and I go out to the pocono raceway from time to time to race around for fun. Its a fast car since that shit put a hugh dent in my Credit Card.. buying all the performance parts etc...
I want to list my mods and hopefully get an estimate as to what my 1/4 mile time might be. I know its not a honda and its on the wrong msg board but I figure let me ask anyway since you guys seem to be knowledgeable in F/I setups.
The first job done to the engine was a full port and polished head.
the crankshaft is still stock.
Engine Mods:
Schrink 268 cams
Garrett T3/T4 turbo wastegate set @ 10psi
JE Pistons - Forged 2.9L (82.5mm) pistons
RC Racing 550 cc fuel injectors
Quaife Torque Bias Differential
Cunningham Rods
Velocity OBD I Big Bore Throttle Body - bored out 1/4"
Velocity lighten VR6 flywheel
Turn2 Poly Engine mounts.
AP Racing 4 piston calipers with a 13" heat treated/balanced rotors ( cross drilled)
H&R UltraLow1 Coilover system
VW Motor Sport A arm bushings
Head Gasket Copper Spacer
update--stock hp 176
I want to list my mods and hopefully get an estimate as to what my 1/4 mile time might be. I know its not a honda and its on the wrong msg board but I figure let me ask anyway since you guys seem to be knowledgeable in F/I setups.
The first job done to the engine was a full port and polished head.
the crankshaft is still stock.
Engine Mods:
Schrink 268 cams
Garrett T3/T4 turbo wastegate set @ 10psi
JE Pistons - Forged 2.9L (82.5mm) pistons
RC Racing 550 cc fuel injectors
Quaife Torque Bias Differential
Cunningham Rods
Velocity OBD I Big Bore Throttle Body - bored out 1/4"
Velocity lighten VR6 flywheel
Turn2 Poly Engine mounts.
AP Racing 4 piston calipers with a 13" heat treated/balanced rotors ( cross drilled)
H&R UltraLow1 Coilover system
VW Motor Sport A arm bushings
Head Gasket Copper Spacer
update--stock hp 176
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uhhh, why would you post that here?!?! Its an accord/tsx forum! anyways, just wondering if anyone had any experience with Head packages? It says it adds up to 58hp without an engine swap. (on average 40-58hp) So i was wondering if i could go with this Head Package, and throw a turbo in and be well over 250hp which would be fast enough for me, and it wouldnt cost THAT much for everything.
Head Package 1,700
Turbo 2,000 - 3,000
+
Labor 700 - 1,000
-----------------
around 4,500- 6,000
that would take about...4 months to pay off, and i would have a fast 6th gen accord!
:edit: BTW i was talking about the head package from this site--
http://www.mmrusa.com/gudehead.htm
Head Package 1,700
Turbo 2,000 - 3,000
+
Labor 700 - 1,000
-----------------
around 4,500- 6,000
that would take about...4 months to pay off, and i would have a fast 6th gen accord!
:edit: BTW i was talking about the head package from this site--
http://www.mmrusa.com/gudehead.htm
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Originally Posted by bubbrubb
uhhh, why would you post that here?!?! Its an accord/tsx forum! anyways, just wondering if anyone had any experience with Head packages? It says it adds up to 58hp without an engine swap. (on average 40-58hp) So i was wondering if i could go with this Head Package, and throw a turbo in and be well over 250hp which would be fast enogh of me, and it wouldnt cost THAT much for everything.
Head Package 1,700
Turbo 2,000 - 3,000
+
Labor 700 - 1,000
-----------------
around 4,500- 6,000
that would take about...4 months to pay off, and i would have a fast 6th gen accord!
:edit: BTW i was talking about the head package from this site--
http://www.mmrusa.com/gudehead.htm
Head Package 1,700
Turbo 2,000 - 3,000
+
Labor 700 - 1,000
-----------------
around 4,500- 6,000
that would take about...4 months to pay off, and i would have a fast 6th gen accord!
:edit: BTW i was talking about the head package from this site--
http://www.mmrusa.com/gudehead.htm
