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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by JessTD
the way i read the bill is people on welfare can only win up to $600

so if your on welfare and win 10k you can only get $600

i'm not sure if i like that one or not
I do. If you're on welfare you're spending tax payer money on lottery tickets. Not your money, not your winnings.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by cpvdh
f this crap, i get food stamps and cant pass a ua
does that mean im abusing the system?

people need to take responsibility, not have the gov't force punishments on them

it just makes me think of being in scotland on the coast and walking along these high cliff paths, no guardrails or anything, its your own damn fault if you fall and die
in the US there are signs and railings and people would sue the gov't if they jumped off themselves and broke their neck instead of dying

i dont like the idea of people using welfare money for stupid shit, but they are stupid people, maybe we should try educating them instead of just giving them money
Considering you're spending money on drugs rather than food, I'd say yes, you are abusing the system.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 11:59 AM
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sounds like it would bring about a lot of good. cant really think of any negative consequences


do it. do it now.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 11:59 AM
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how about you get rid of walfare altogether and just put everyone that benefits from it in a big ungly hotel(prison) and tell them what they can and cannot do. The government give them money that mean thye do kind of own them right?

I disagree but understand the drug tests... i mean it is an illegal substance after all. But lottery? whats next force them to quit smoking, drinking, they dont pay for porn? where does it end?
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cpvdh
f this crap, i get food stamps and cant pass a ua
does that mean im abusing the system?

people need to take responsibility, not have the gov't force punishments on them

it just makes me think of being in scotland on the coast and walking along these high cliff paths, no guardrails or anything, its your own damn fault if you fall and die
in the US there are signs and railings and people would sue the gov't if they jumped off themselves and broke their neck instead of dying

i dont like the idea of people using welfare money for stupid shit, but they are stupid people, maybe we should try educating them instead of just giving them money

Fuck that if you can afford drugs but not to pay your bills or buy food then yes you are abusing the system.

I say anyone applying for welfare and failing the UA should be injected with an overdose on speedballs and be done with their asses period.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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btw is there anything similar to this being used in other countries/parts of the world? i is ignorant h:
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightshade
Fuck that if you can afford drugs but not to pay your bills or buy food then yes you are abusing the system.

I say anyone applying for welfare and failing the UA should be injected with an overdose on speedballs and be done with their asses period.
I'm surprised that someone who used to have a substance abuse would say that. I think it's a good idea but only if the available social aid become exellent.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Tark
how about you get rid of walfare altogether and just put everyone that benefits from it in a big ungly hotel(prison) and tell them what they can and cannot do. The government give them money that mean thye do kind of own them right?

I disagree but understand the drug tests... i mean it is an illegal substance after all. But lottery? whats next force them to quit smoking, drinking, they dont pay for porn? where does it end?
Food stamps already prevent the purchase of alcohol and tobacco products.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RB
Food stamps already prevent the purchase of alcohol and tobacco products.
go to the corner store, they'll accept food stamps for alcohol and tobacco
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Tark
I'm surprised that someone who used to have a substance abuse would say that. I think it's a good idea but only if the available social aid become exellent.
When I was on drugs I was a piece of shit lowlife, I have never made any excuses for who I was or what I did and if this had been the policy at that time then it probably would have saved the world some headache. But it wasn't and I was smart enough to get my head out of my ass enough to return to a productive member of society.

The odds were against that happening but I beat them so if this were policy the benefits would outweight the drawbacks...and I believe this 100%
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