Iraq war czar: Consider a draft
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they are already selling? no serving in the military does not guarantee citizenship. it makes it a bit easier but that has always been the case.
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how about you just stick to what you know because clear you do not know what you are talking about with this bs you just posted.
they are already selling? no serving in the military does not guarantee citizenship. it makes it a bit easier but that has always been the case.
they are already selling? no serving in the military does not guarantee citizenship. it makes it a bit easier but that has always been the case.
A volunteer military only works as long as people volunteer. The recruitment numbers are available to check but last I read the volunteer numbers were dropping steadily since the first of this year. This lends credence to privatized military structuring such as Blackwater and Haliburton to come in and make a profit by providing the policing service for entire countries.
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As much as I think this war has become a farce and as much as I hate Bush, I'd definitely serve if I was drafted. If they reinstituted the draft, I might even enlist just so that I'd have a better choice in assignments.
There's a proud tradition of military service in my family and I'm proud of my country, so even if I disagree with the war I can't turn a blind eye on what the military and the US have done for my family. I just think we've made a lot of foreign policy mistakes in the last decade. However, I'm prettyer certain that the draft won't come back anytime soon (barring an invasion by China or something), because that would be absolute political suicide for the administration and their supporters.
There's a proud tradition of military service in my family and I'm proud of my country, so even if I disagree with the war I can't turn a blind eye on what the military and the US have done for my family. I just think we've made a lot of foreign policy mistakes in the last decade. However, I'm prettyer certain that the draft won't come back anytime soon (barring an invasion by China or something), because that would be absolute political suicide for the administration and their supporters.
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no i know your point. but most of the "rampent" homosexuality wasnt what it is today. the examples you cited (greek, roman) ... these werent cases of homosexuality in the respect they are today. these were married men in most cases, men who had wifes and children and families wherever they were from, but in the military they sastified their sexual lusts with men. this was prior to the injection of christianic beliefs into social doctrine. at that time homosexuality wasnt the same meaning as it is today ... they didnt see it as a bad thing... once christian beliefs were injected into most modern society and the teachers of christian faith began preaching that homosexuality was wrong did it only take on the negative connotations
the mindset of homosexuality and what they were doing then is totally different than the mindset most people take today on homosexuality. you have to remember these were even times where in many cases women didnt even question their husbands for sleeping with whatever woman they wanted to.
and i didnt mean homosexuality was "new" rather the overly openness and societies attempts to accept people who have different sexual orientations is still relatively new. ya know what i mean?
the mindset of homosexuality and what they were doing then is totally different than the mindset most people take today on homosexuality. you have to remember these were even times where in many cases women didnt even question their husbands for sleeping with whatever woman they wanted to.
and i didnt mean homosexuality was "new" rather the overly openness and societies attempts to accept people who have different sexual orientations is still relatively new. ya know what i mean?
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