So I guess we must only have perfect humans writing law...ok. The adultery was not acceptable for the time but slavery was, and has been used worldwide in all of history. It had its use in its time. I personally disagree with it, so don't flame me over it.

I'm curious. How did you learn murder was wrong? Who told you it was? Why do you believe it? In other words, what is your frame of reference?

I'd say they are being unfairly treated, too.

Used as an *example* The figure is 75-80% if you cared to read it.

By the way, the bible references the Earth as being round.

Moral code and law agrees in this case. What's the point?

Speeding could be considered immoral if you are endangering yourself or someone else.

Same for pot.

You mistakenly assume that every person will get exactly what they want in this country. It just isn't true. Liberty is pretty much a sure thing, but justice is not perfect...ask any judge or lawyer. The majority rules, I don't know what else to tell you.

 

Are you suggesting that humans wouldn't know that murder is wrong if the bible had not told them so?

I try to live by such ideals as "do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Under otherwise peaceful circumstances, murder is unacceptable by that code.

Picture a classroom with thirty students. The teacher is Christian and so are 29 of the students. The school does not sanction nor proscribe organized prayer in class. Imagine 29 students being led by the teacher in prayer while the other student, perhaps an atheist, sits quietly, being uncomfortably subjected to the will of the majority. The student is required to be in school and, because of school rules, is not allowed to leave class simply to avoid being in the room during the prayer.

Now imagine that its a Muslim teacher, 29 Muslim students and you're the 30th student. 180 days a year. You feeling particularly good about this?

"Could be considered immoral" is not the same thing as "laws are morality." Don't force your Christian-derived morality on me with law.

By the way, who does gay marriage endanger?

I don't assume that everyone will get what they want. I'm pretty sure the Klan won't be allowed to lynch blacks again. I'm quite confident that PETA won't find a way to outlaw pet ownership.

I know exactly what to tell you about the majority -- they aren't always right

 

The United States is a Judeo-Christian Society, that is the short and straight of it. You may not be happy about it, but there it is.

There are nut jobs who claim to do things in the name of God, G-d, Yahweh, Allah, the Christians don't have a monopoly on it, they just get their names in the papers here a lot. When I refer to decay, I am talking about negative trends. Like the 1/3 of the adult black men being in jail thing, or "artists" being hailed for singing about killing the Po Po, or raping or killing random citizens. The positive thing that religions can bring are a framework to work within, the playbook I mentioned earlier, but they also can end up blowing up abortion clinics, which I am against because there is one in my building.

The states can pass whatever laws they please, whether it breaks Federal law or not, as long as it is not a power reserved specifically for the Feds. (For example, they can't coin money.) Those things may, and probably should get challenged in court. Like when California passed a law stating that illegal aliens, oops, I mean undocumented guest workers were not eligible for benefits like free healthcare, or education. This was struck down by the 9th Circus Court as unconstitutional.

 

A gross oversimplification of the makeup of the country, and its wrong to boot. In order for the United States to be a Judeo-Christian society, wouldn't Judeo-Christian practices have to pervade every aspect of life in this country? I mean EVERYTHING. Watch primetime television for a few hours. Does Desperate Housewives represent a Judeo-Christian morality? I mean, the single mother alone should be presented as a leper, figuratively speaking, if what you're saying is true.

 

i laugh at how consistently wrong you are.. http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html#religions

 

Twenty categories on that list. What are you trying to prove again?

 

By the way, tonight on South Park Mr. Garrison is having a sex change operation. How does Christianity feel about that?

 

apparently you can't read either.. :chuckles:

 

You're an idiot.

If you want to get into the debate, be serious, or get lost.

 

:lmao: it's ok.. one day you'll learn to stop talking out of your ass.