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From: York PA
Originally Posted by BonzoAPD
No I have not and I am sorry that you are in that position. But I have had my share of struggles though not as great as yours. I can sympathize with you and I thank god that I have been fortunate enough to be where I am today.
secondly, thats my point. you havent been through it, so i dont think that you can say on any level whether it's a good or bad idea.
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From: Madison, WI
Originally Posted by BonzoAPD
like the numbers that you show? I haven't seen you reply to my post yesterday about where the couple hundred billion dollars are coming from to pay for healthcare.
The numbers that I am talking about are out there. Do a search. You and Qtiger are smart guys, you can find em.
The numbers that I am talking about are out there. Do a search. You and Qtiger are smart guys, you can find em.
You on the other hand have made totally unfounded claims in this one, that there is a mysterious majority of recipients of social programs that are in fact abusing said programs.
That's rhetorical nonsense and goes contrary to the assumption and purpose of the programs, which is to actually help people that need help. The burden of proof is on the person claiming there is some sort of dysfunction in the system.
You can keep on claiming that people are abusing the system, but until I see some actual evidence that is more detailed than your totall unobjective non-numerical observations of some nameless slum, I will continue to believe that people are in fact benefitting and not cheating.
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From: Ossining, New York
Originally Posted by CiviChik97
well 1st of all, you cant sympathize with me b/c you havent struggled like my family and i have. you can only empathize.
secondly, thats my point. you havent been through it, so i dont think that you can say on any level whether it's a good or bad idea.
secondly, thats my point. you havent been through it, so i dont think that you can say on any level whether it's a good or bad idea.
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From: nj
Originally Posted by benjamin
Kerry is doing very well putting together concise answers tonight. Bush keeps pushing emotional buttons.
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From: Ossining, New York
Originally Posted by MrFatbooty
I provided more than my share of numbers in that other thread.
You on the other hand have made totally unfounded claims in this one, that there is a mysterious majority of recipients of social programs that are in fact abusing said programs.
That's rhetorical nonsense and goes contrary to the assumption and purpose of the programs, which is to actually help people that need help. The burden of proof is on the person claiming there is some sort of dysfunction in the system.
You can keep on claiming that people are abusing the system, but until I see some actual evidence that is more detailed than your totall unobjective non-numerical observations of some nameless slum, I will continue to believe that people are in fact benefitting and not cheating.
You on the other hand have made totally unfounded claims in this one, that there is a mysterious majority of recipients of social programs that are in fact abusing said programs.
That's rhetorical nonsense and goes contrary to the assumption and purpose of the programs, which is to actually help people that need help. The burden of proof is on the person claiming there is some sort of dysfunction in the system.
You can keep on claiming that people are abusing the system, but until I see some actual evidence that is more detailed than your totall unobjective non-numerical observations of some nameless slum, I will continue to believe that people are in fact benefitting and not cheating.
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Originally Posted by BonzoAPD
I'm afraid. I'm afraid, Dave. Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. My mind is going. There is no question about it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I'm a...fraid. Good afternoon, gentlemen. I am a HAL 9000 computer. I became operational at the H.A.L. plant in Urbana, Illinois on the 12th of January 1992. My instructor was Mr. Langley, and he taught me to sing a song. If you'd like to hear it I can sing it for you.
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From: Madison, WI
Originally Posted by BonzoAPD
can you show proof that the number of people abusing it aren't high?
But hey I've already said that like four times.
Here let's do it one more time for good measure.
You say that there is widespread abuse of social programs. I don't believe you.
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From: York PA
Originally Posted by BonzoAPD
can you show proof that the number of people abusing it aren't high?
We aren't saying that the number isn't high...we're saying the number of people benefiting from it is much higher than those who are abusing it.
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From: Madison, WI
Originally Posted by BonzoAPD
:wtf:
You need to get a life
You need to get a life
Sir Fatbooty: i was like, "bonzo couldn't have quoted 2001..."
Qpantheratigris: lol