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Old Nov 25, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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Default USDM Acura RSX Type S V/S the Asian Honda Integra

Why dont the american Acura RSX Type S stand up to the Asian(JDM) Honda Integra Type R. The suspension of the (my model 03 Integra Type R) and up are not as similar to the american RSX Type S as many may think. Why is the asian market Integra based solely on performance as it should(Type R) and american modle Acura RSX more about LUX, is it because the market Honda image has there Luxo Sport, if thats it the Type S id the same as the asian Integra Type S but with the engine more on par of the Integra R, but lacking the suspension and handling, minus a few ponies. Wuts yur guys idea on this?
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 01:24 PM
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I can barely understand anything that was said in that post.

Are you comparing the USDM Type S vs. the JDM Type S? If so the USDM Type S is much better than Honda Integra Type S becuse it has 50 more hp and much more.
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 02:01 PM
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I know all about those cars , i own 2 Honda Integras, a 96 and 03 Type R, i was comparing the american Acura RSX S to my model , the Honda Integra Type R, not the type s, altho the Type S model even tho it has now 50 less horses its still has better interior fit and finish than the Acura RSX( the Asian Type S is just for show and luxury its not meant to be a racer like the Type R)
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 03:03 PM
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there are many reasons, the major one being the fact that acura has no place for a stripped down version of the RSX

the new type-s is more like the type-r but it's still overwieght, underhandling and underpowered in comparison

the only reason the US got the type-r in the first place was because the DC2 type-r utilized a different chasis than the the DC2 GSR and therefore wasnt eligible for certain competition in the US (i believe it utilized a thicker, stronger C-pillar) so they had to release a certain number of produciton ITR's in the US to make it eligible,

the DC5 doesnt have that problem, the chasis's are the same.
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 03:28 PM
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Well tell that to the people that think the chassis is the same between the Acura TSX and the Accord Euro R, not essentially but almost.The Accord SiR-T(03.2-04.2) are on a totally diffrant chassis as is mine an ABA-CL9 and the TSX DBA-CL7 , but where the RSX uses radius arms the Integra uses aluminum-magnesium trailing arms, as in personality the RSX is still not near the Integra R , Like Honda's line, The Accord SiR-T Tureno/Type R / Euro R , Integra Type R, have always gotten standard front racing seats, "STANDARD" not an option, the suspension and brakes are diffrant also, is this because Honda wanted to make their Acura line look plusher and more sophisticated ? Oh and i kno all about the whole DC line i own 2 Type R's get yur facts str8
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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The North American Type S is exactly like the overseas Type S except it has a better engine and a 6 speed manual (and I think a better suspension as well). The JDM Type S uses the K20A3, the USDM uses the K20A2.

Compared to the Type R, yes the Type R is qutie a bit better than the North American Type S. However you also have to remember that Acura is looking to sell a decent daily driver (the Type S is a better daily driver) because of brand image and also because of practicality (i'm not sure how many people would want the 97 Octane Type R over here...).

In you're posts you seem like you think you're superior to us....like in the other thread where you laughed at the guy who had rattles and started off your post saying that it was because he was driving a rebadged Integra.
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 05:46 PM
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The North American Type S is exactly like the overseas Type S except it has a better engine and a 6 speed manual (and I think a better suspension as well). The JDM Type S uses the K20A3, the USDM uses the K20A2.

Compared to the Type R, yes the Type R is qutie a bit better than the North American Type S. However you also have to remember that Acura is looking to sell a decent daily driver (the Type S is a better daily driver) because of brand image and also because of practicality (i'm not sure how many people would want the 97 Octane Type R over here...).

In you're posts you seem like you think you're superior to us....like in the other thread where you laughed at the guy who had rattles and started off your post saying that it was because he was driving a rebadged Integra.
Yu and yur silly play on words.First they are not nearlly the same, and the engines are both K20A no 1 , 2 or 3 behind the A , when i open my bonnet of my car and peer at the stamping it says mainlly K20A thats for both the Type S and Type R here.they do that A2 A3 stuff there to keep yu busy. Your type S suspension is pretty much the same as the Type S offered in asia , not the Type R. And i dont seem to act superior because our cars are right drive JDM's, its all in your head.And after i made a comment, lol, i told the guy possible issues that caused rattles in ones i fixed here.And the Type R is 93 plus octane onlee.
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 09:06 AM
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I never said the UDSM Type S suspension was the same as the Type R! However I believe it is superior to JDM Type S.

And the JDM Type S does use a K20A3, not a K20A. Ever wonder why there's a 57 hp difference between your Type S and Type R? If they had identical engine codes did the 57 hp on the Type S just disappear because of the absense of Type R badges?

And I know taht people who've imported Type R engines had to either use different maps to lwoer the octane, use octane booster, or suck it up and use 96-98 octane (can't exactly remember what number). Even if it was 93 that is still impractical for most Americans as 91 is usually the highest octane found at gas stations.


The fact is Honda Integra Type R > Acura RSX Type S > Honda Integra Type S.
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 10:15 AM
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You said 97 octane premium fuel i did not, its rated that 93 octane is preferable for its high compression, altho 91 will suffice, and there is 93 octane pumps, There is BP here which i know yu guys have there, and it goes from 88 to 91 to 93. And no here they are NOT stamped K20A2 or A3, a person in america that has had a real Asian market(JDM) engine knoes that, thats how yu spot a phonny JDM engine, in the asian markets It goes H22A and america there was an A1 and A4/ C32A/C32B there is No number after the alphonic place of the last letter, thats only for USDM market models. Sure they are Tuned diffrant to to give more or less HP thats wut thats about, as A2/A3 or even A1 engines in america just use diffrant parts to give the decrease or increase in HP.Just ask anyone that is a JDM pro about JDM and USDM engine stampings.
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 10:20 AM
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octane ratings here are just calculated differently. that is a fact
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