Sick! Just like mine

edit: 'Cept mine has NAWS y0! V-Tech is screamin'

 

the more i think about this,the more i wonder,how is this ANY different than just keeping your stock airbox?only differences i can see is your using a cone type filter,which cant add any extra horsepower,no more than a k&n would...
And your routing the air from where it was originally being routed,minus the resonator...
The more i think about it,this IS just like usuing your stock airbox,and makes little sense why you would get any substantial horsepower increse....if anything,the power will stay in the same rpm's as with your stock air box.

Damn,why doesnt this make sense?

 

oh,and master yodub,i noticed that the filter you are using is a k&n,but it looks totally black,not red,so either its INCREDIBLY dirty or you took the oil out of the element,which destroys the whole purpose of the filter....they sell a filter recharge kit at autozone for 10 bucks,spray the one on,takes out the oil and dirt,rinse,dry,reoil....then maybe you will see a real imporvment,but that dirty filter WILL not help,and if its unoiled,your just wasting your money

 

Just FYI, I have cleaned and oiled it. I just need to clean it again, because when I hydrolocked it was dirty water. It's on my to do list.

 

Then tell me why short ram intakes, and the Comptech Icebox intake system make power? Think. Before you shoot down an idea, maybe you should understand things first, and maybe try them. I can tell from your posts that you're not very knowledgeable in the automotive area. That's fine, everyone has to learn sometime. But until you have some knowledge and have done things on your own, keep your mouth shut.

 

You're wrong.

Dirty K&Ns start to flow more than fresh ones before they need to be cleaned.

 

well,a short ram intake doesnt really make much for power,makes a lot of noise,it changes what rpm the power is created,but if you think 2-3 wheel horse power is real power,i gotta argue you there.
And as far as that icebox goes,i was trying to say,isnt this like taking the stock airbox and routing cool air to it?using a cone filter cant make all that much difference,high flow or not....yes,if you have a header and aftermarket exaust,maybe rechipped computer,head job,different intake and throttle body,then improving the volume of air will make a substantial difference,but unless you did all that,your only talking a few horsepower at best.
I know cars pretty well,imports are somewhat new to me,i usually do toyotas and domestics,building them in this way is too,used to doing things for much more horsepower...but you gotta learn somtime
Wasnot shooting down anyones idea,its just i cant see how this is making more horsepower,and why.maybe it changes the rpm range the power is created,that i wont deny,but what is it your saying is creating the power?obviously your not getting much more air than with a stock air box,right?

 

http://www.tprmag.com/issue/1/sr-results.shtml

Look here. An independent dyno test using various short ram intakes. Most gained around 7 peak hp at the wheels, up to 10 in certain areas of the powerband. The stock intake system is very restrictive...not the airbox, but the system...pipe, resonators, filter, etc.

 

Think about what you just said,that makes no sense. If your going by what it says on the box,first off you shouldnt believe everything they tell you,secondly,it doesnt flow better,it filters better...and the more it filters,the less it flows.

And as to http://www.tprmag.com/issue/1/sr-results.shtml results,thats based on a si,which has completely different power bands,and it doesnt say if the car was bone-stock,or if it had exaust work,or anything else to increase flow.it also doesnt say anything about torque,which you also know is important.
If you look at the rpm's that the cars were making 7-10 extra horsepower,you'll see that no sane driver would drive their cars to those rpm's,7000-8000 rpm's are not where most people rev their engine,unless its set up to take it.....yes,your making 7-10hp at 7500 rpm's,but at 4000-5000 rpms,it was making between .1-3 horsepower(the short rams),the cold air intakes were making even LESS at the higher rpms,but they didnt suffer from heat-soak,from the heat under the hood.So you would have that 7-10hp for the first few minutes you drive the car,then the heat causes the gains to drop CONSIDERABLY,as it says in the article.Before you claim it makes such a huge difference,read the whole article.

So yes,this proves that if you drive your car like your trying to blow the engine,you will make considerable gains,but you cant expect more than 3-5 horsepower if you drive it like a sane person.And thats until the engine bay heats up,then its more like -1 to 3.

I'd like to try to see if this diy icebox will work,but im wondering what factors actually create the power,looking at those dyno results just serve to confuse me on what is causing the differences. The shape of the pipe,the filter element,the length of the pipe?Short rams are all basically the same shape and size,and im guessing smoothness of the inside too,so the difference must rely mainly on the filter element itself.
If all of those are such big factors,then any little difference in the design of this diy icebox can have drastic results. If i can make 7-10 hp at 7k rpms,or i could make 3hp at 4k-5k rpm's,which is the gain you would want?
The whole point of this icebox isnt to make more power than the cai,its to make the car respont at a lower rpm,instead of only at the highest rpm's

I know im probably rambling,but im not trying to argue with anyone,im just wondering what the factors are that determine the gains for this project.

 

Blow the engine? What are you talking about? First off, the short rams made more peak hp than the CAI. Most people want high RPM power, because nobody races in the midrange. When you race, you shift at redline, or close to redline...wherever your peak hp occurs. Revving a honda to its redline isn't going to blow the motor or damage it. If it did, mine would have blown up long ago. As for the engine bay heating up, yes it will heat up...that's the point of using the airbox and the extension pipe. The extension pipe will pick up cold air from behind the turn signal, and the airbox will help to shield the filter element from engine bay temperatures. The point is also to make more peak hp, because that's what I wanted.