Agreed on every point.

You have no idea what you're talking about. "Race motor"? It's a STOCK ENGINE.


Sure the throttle response on a naturally aspirated engine is going to be better, but that doesn't mean it's going to be loads better than a turbo engine. Turbo engines can be built and turbo setups can be pieced together to have VERY fast throttle response....ie high compression, small ballbearing turbo, etc. You can't just say that an N/A motor and a turbo motor making the same HP that the N/A motor will always be faster. There are more things to consider like torque, torque curve, hp curve, etc. I guarantee you the turbo motor will make more torque, and have more torque throughout the RPM band. It will make more power sooner in the RPM range than the N/A motor.


As for tuners, I don't know if Jeff at Importbuilders still does tuning, but he's one of the best tuners around the area. However, you don't need it...you have nothing to tune.

 

It is a stock motor. Just because it is efficient and the cream of the crop of Honda's motors doesn't mean it is a race motor. If you are so sure that you are correct (which you aren't), what extra "science" does it take besides a bolt on turbo kit and a good tune?

Please...enlighten us. 10 psi will never make 700 whp on a 1.8L....ever.

Look at this thread: http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/1665480. I guarantee that thing has better throttle response and will completely distroy 99% of N/A Honda builds.

 

why do avergae joes just have to make sorry comments about anything bc they think they know anything, i mean hell u have 1600hp 4-cyl enigines using 35psi and u cant do 700 on 10 psi well look, im a professional, and i can send u a few stats on soem of our motor i might just let u see the horse power at every rpm from 2000 all the way to 11,000, if u like i wloud come to ur state and show u 700hp or maybe 1200hp, but i dont get to ppl like u level, i have a great career and i love what i do, im not going to let some hey i wanna talk crap guy over the internet, our company does business, there is no such thing as never will happen, but i will show u a few things about our type-r enigne with a b20b block and its only at 10psi right now, and can go up to 40psi, well u know aebs sleeves can handle that, but just bc u lil street racer guys can hardley get 375whp, dont mean us proffesionals cant, oh yeah who said there was a difference between v-8s and 4-cyls, displacement and ecu timing, come on man, get u a shop and do ur home work, untill u have done what i've done, and make the money i make at what u love to do, u cant take nothign from me buddy

 

but i will send a few stats to show u what is possible just bc u cant do it on the street, u can take it to the track and have a team that has cars capable of doing the 1/4mile in less than 8 secs at over 190mph

 

Sorry, I don't care how "professional" you are. No honda motor will ever make 700hp on 10psi...even with the biggest turbo you can find.

 

and what do u drive some busted up honda civic with a lsvtec swap, ha, some on buddie these are straight race engines 140:1 compression 10psi, but i'll tell u a lil secrect, psi dont mean to much with out boost ratio, surge flow ect. u cant tell a guy what he cant do if he done it more than once, dont judge someone if u dont know them, but i may send u a dyno sheet and the stats of this motor, i really dont care if u dont belive me or not, i'll sit in the driver seat and u can sit on the couch and watch me do the job

 

Haha, ok bud. Whatever you say. You sound exactly like all the wannabe racers that think they know shit. "Oh yeah well I have this, and it runs this, and it makes this much power. I don't need to show you proof." Then you talk out of your ass some more, probably about things you have no clue about. If you would read my post, you would notice that I said "No honda motor will ever make 700hp on 10psi...even with the biggest turbo you can find." Now being the guru that you are, you should know that a big turbo would mean high CFM. You should also know that CFM is what makes power, and not boost pressure directly...although it most definitely has a say in how much power you make. You can post whatever dyno sheet you want that makes 700 hp and claim it's yours. Even a race motor with 14:1 compression won't make that much power at 10psi, with a large CFM flowing turbo. I bet you also think it's possible to make 300+ whp on a naturally aspirated D-series.

 

and can u tell me the so call perameters of a turbo engine, can u, and no big turbo dont mean more cfm, and no cfm will not laways make horse power, ur cyl heads have to flow with all of that, also camshaft play a major role, compression dome hieght exhaust flow, induction, everything, ur the wanna be racer buddie, but untill u do or biuld something worth seeing, dont talk smack, oh yeah and they turbo we use is a full race application
a garrett T45 48-9 series turbo
but since ur so smart tell me a few things, what does island pressure mean, or the island efficiency how does it work out, or surge crm what does that have to do with a turbo what is boost ratio, please tell me something besides something u can't do on need for speen underground, or i can give u a easyt question, what type of intercoolers can u chose from, please tell me something worth hearing, besides something ur momma can't buy u, untill then just watch me on the t.v.

 

That "sentence" right there tells me you don't know shit.

 

well put it like this, i race cars, u can sit in ur chair and talk crap all day, im gonna go eat out get my motor ready and be at the track this weekend, see ya later sweetheart