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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 03:59 PM
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thats what im thinking, i just have to play around with the tuning for a longer while than otherwise, but once i get it right it will run great. i never seen a vacuum line going into the dizzy ill check it out.

couple questions tho, im new to hondas

are there larger injectors i can put into this thing that are directly off some other honda, or do i need to go aftermarket?

about the FMU, i know these are return style systems but do i need to bypass the current FPR on this car or just piggyback?

what cars can i get the STD manifold off of ?
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 06:43 PM
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PHiZ, the day you show me that you actually have reason to be seen as anything other than a chipped ECU pusher is the day I might consider listening to you.

Just because "some guy" has done XYZ doesn't make it right and proper. I'm opposed to relying on a rise in fuel pressure to increase fuel delivery on ANY application, not just turbos.

The question was asked what needed to be done, and I answered with what SHOULD be done. If you want to attempt anything lesser, then you're on your own, I don't mess with ghetto-rigged junk.
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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 04:12 AM
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The problem we have here is tuning for any appilcation can't be done with fuel pressure. Different rpms require different amounts of fuel, some more, some less. Fuel tuning with any sort of regulator is ineffective and a band aid as 1stGen already said.

Ford, No one is telling you to break the bank just to tune it right and that means not using things that will get you by. You said you want it to be reliable but the way you are approaching it, hardly seems the reliable way.
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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 04:33 AM
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ok, but whats so bad about running rich? i mean every integra in this area has got black char all over their exhausts and they're not even turboed... more like lousy mechanics. my ford came from the factory so rich when i tuned it right i increased my mileage by 33%, and the old motor ran fine like that for 250Kkm.

how so wont i be able to tune it... the only difficulty would be making it percise enough. once again, if it runs in the "safe" zone and not in the performance zone, im not too concerned about it. later on when i have some dough again to spend i'll invest in management.. but for now even 5psi would be nice...
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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 04:43 AM
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Running too rich will make less power, hurt fuel economy (You want to save money right?), and increase emissions among other side effects.

Why would you not want to do it right?
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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 05:58 AM
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Running overly rich [along with improper timing] on a boosted engine can also increase EGT's hot enough to cause turbo damage.
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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 01:34 PM
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both good points but the first one im already telling u... its because i want to keep costs as low as possible... better management will come later... but for now i want a FUNCTIONAL turbo setup that i can work with...

secondly blowing the turbo is a side effect of a overly rich mixture and overly retarded ignition timing... but thats only if i run it extremely rich for a long time... if i am careful it should be no problem

is that it? what u're saying is it will never be as efficient as a computer... well duh... and if i am not careful while tuning its possible i can damage the motor/turbo extensively... the latter also true of overly lean mixes and advanced ignition timing...
i already knew that
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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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Originally by me.
I answered with what SHOULD be done. If you want to attempt anything lesser, then you're on your own
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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 06:04 PM
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Essentially: no, it ain't gonna blow up.

You can get an FMU setup to work reasonably well and as long as your injectors respond to changes in fuel pressure in a reasonably proportional manner it's a workable solution.

It's not going to be optimized and it's not going to make the most power that it can, but no, it probably won't blow up. No guarantees, of course. If that's all you're really aiming for then ok.
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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MrFatbooty
Essentially: no, it ain't gonna blow up.

You can get an FMU setup to work reasonably well and as long as your injectors respond to changes in fuel pressure in a reasonably proportional manner it's a workable solution.

It's not going to be optimized and it's not going to make the most power that it can, but no, it probably won't blow up. No guarantees, of course. If that's all you're really aiming for then ok.
That is the sound reasonable advice that we've grown to expect from our forum leaders, and is why we always come back here, to bask in the warm pleasurable experience that is HAN.

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