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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by twin3037
that is true but torque can be made up for by excelent tunning and suspension thats why the ferrari 3.6 litres v8's beat out the corvette and vipers like 3 years in a row
Oh, shut up. You're just going to change the topic since you got your stupid ass owned?
Here is what you said.
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a race car that has more torque then horsepower is a poorlly tuned race car
And it is an obviously retarded statement. So I showed you a Viper that was tuned well enough to win Le Mans.
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nathan you are truly a moron the only reason that car has more torque then horsepower is because it is limited to 600hp like all lemans cars becasue of air restrictors then can't go over 600hp but the torque can even with air restrictors.
And then you called me a moron. Because you forgot that some racing events have restrictions (many of which require better torque output to win), this somehow makes me a moron. Even though the statement you made was ignorant and, above all, incorrect, I'm a moron? And you have the right to call anyone here a moron, since you write the most legible, clearly written posts (with all the correct punctuations, I might add). Yes, your posts definitely display your high level of intelligence.


Go away.
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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Torque is accleration.


Go ride in something with a decent V8 and you'll find that out quick.
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by senseiturtle
Torque is accleration.

Torque is the ability to twist. "Acceleration" is achieved by either increasing speed OR reducing time.

Nathan... he's not even close.:fawk:
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 07:13 PM
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take the restrictors off that viper and it would have much more horsepower then 600 which is it's torque numbers and dumbshit don't call me stupid i refuse to take the time to look over my post i do hvae better things in life to do. You don't know me so don't attempt to act smarter then me u have no clue go **** yourself dick
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by Integrity
Torque is the ability to twist. "Acceleration" is achieved by either increasing speed OR reducing time.

Yes, I know. Physics 2109 and Thermodynamics 3091 explained it all in great detail

What I was trying to say is, all other things being equal, at a set RPM

more torque = more accleration.

Horsepower is just an arbitrary figure, designed to show how this torque value applies over a dyno curve... and to "sell cars" as the saying goes.
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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A car only acclerates at the torque value available for that speed, that's what the engine can produce, and that's what you're getting out of it.
Hey I kinda like that analogy. I never thought of it that way before....

So HP is just a measure of how fast a car can accelerate at speed....:thumbup:
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by twin3037
You don't know me so don't attempt to act smarter then me u have no clue go **** yourself dick
Who's acting?
Old Jan 8, 2004 | 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by senseiturtle

What I was trying to say is, all other things being equal, at a set RPM

more torque = more accleration.

Its not that simple. You can just as easily say, less weight = more acceleration.

Torque is nothing without RPMs. Torque figures are no more significant than horsepower figures.
Old Jan 8, 2004 | 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by Integrity
Its not that simple. You can just as easily say, less weight = more acceleration.

Torque is nothing without RPMs. Torque figures are no more significant than horsepower figures.
That isn't entirely true........some cars need rpms to make torque. Generaly, these cars are poor contenders on oval tracks or hilly, tight road courses. I said this above in another post: you can't run at high rpm everywhere. V8 power doesn't need high rpm to put out power. Same with the 350Z, it has decent acceleration down low as well.

With oval track racing, which bears a lot of similatities to everyday driving in the sense that you use low rpm mostly (everybody doesn't run stock street cars at 6-8000 rpm very often) you simply can't get by on RPMS alone.....it just doesn't work.
Old Jan 9, 2004 | 06:21 AM
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Originally posted by Fast-Ford
That isn't entirely true........some cars need rpms to make torque. Generaly, these cars are poor contenders on oval tracks or hilly, tight road courses. I said this above in another post: you can't run at high rpm everywhere. V8 power doesn't need high rpm to put out power. Same with the 350Z, it has decent acceleration down low as well.

With oval track racing, which bears a lot of similatities to everyday driving in the sense that you use low rpm mostly (everybody doesn't run stock street cars at 6-8000 rpm very often) you simply can't get by on RPMS alone.....it just doesn't work.
The S2000 has what? 150 ft/lbs of torque? Its still a contender on any road course. With it's light weight, you can enter the turns faster. By entering the turns faster, you exit the turns faster, thereby negating the need for "low end torque to pull you out of the turns."

V8 power doesn't need high rpms to put out power? It woudn't make shit if it couldn't rev past 1000rpms would it? Torque is no more significant than horsepower and vice versa.


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