nah, i dont like like lude's, i want an accord...and the reason im modding the F23 is because It's gonna take a while to swap and i need more power NOW, for fun to drive factor and the occasional old lady at the stop light giving me the wrong look....when i get the new engine (either H22 or 03 V6) I plan on adding an intake, exhaust, pulleys, internals, other shit and eventually a turbo. And money is not really a big concern when it comes to something i want. lol besides, intake, pulleys, and quick shift, that's like what, 1200 bucks? i can sell the parts off of the engine later and make some of my money back, and if not, oh well lol BUT, DO you guys know if an 03 AV6 engine would fit in my car???

 

of course it can, especially since u said money isnt a problem, but why, ur gonna go have to spend $4000-5000, maybe even a little more for that engine and that doesnt include getting it installed. Many people wouldnt have done this swap, so the shop may make mistakes, your gonna be without ur car for a while, etc. With that kinda of money, u could get the H22, build the bottom end and add a turbo for the same price, and i think that would allow u to have more of that fun factor ur talking about.

 

I am with you on the $50

 

you make some good points south...i've thought about all of that, im still making my decision....i really want that AV6 engine tho, because that's 240hp right out of the box...the V2 intake makes an extra 18 horses, add an exhaust and a few other simple mods, and im at 300hp just like that. It would take alot more work to get that H22 to my goal of 300hp...i've still got a while before i make my decision tho...i like the way the H22 looks better tho haha, but man...that new AV6...have u driven one yet? lol i want that engine...but we'll see how it turns out..next comes my kit, paint, seats, intake and pulleys, then i'll start saving for the engine and i'll see when the time comes...if u guys got any suggestions for me i appreciate them...as long as you know the difference between suggestions and hating...and as for the 50 bucks, get ready to lose your $$$$, in about a year or so, when i have the money to build the engine and swap it

 

I dont mean to whore your thread, but can anyone educate me on 'building the bottem end' of an engine...lol im still technically a newb at this stuff (I know more about suspension, exterior mods, etc). Does it mean like replacing the rods/pistons and driveshaft etc? Thanks

 

on 6th gen v6's... unorthodox pulleys are he ones to get. You regain noticable lost horse power. Back in the day unorthodox used to have problems with causing crank wobble or whatever you call it but since then they've really come along way in making he pullies as flawless as possible. AEM's are the ones that usually i hear kill peoples alternator.

 

Sorry man. Your thinking of whole different motor. Since you have a 2002. The AV6 motor your thinking of has 200hp at FLYWHEEL. Meaning thats not too the wheels. As in that I mean when you floor it your only getting like 150hp. The motor your thinking of is the New 2003 AV6 motor that has 240hp. Swapping that into your car would not even be worth it. So much money involved and since the motor just came out it probably cost a bitch load just for that.

Also. The new AV6 motor that is labeled at 240hp at the flywheel with no weight. With the car's body and you in the seat it only makes 190hp to the wheels. AEM V2 does not add 18hp. I would be suprised if it added more then 5 but they claim a lot with that. So with the intake and exhaust you would only be at like 200 if you can gain that much. So not to bust your bubble or anything bro. Just letting you know how the weight to power thing works.

 

You are joking right?? I have a TL-S, and with 260hp out of the box, and with power mods consisiting of the Comptech Icebox, Comptech Headers, Denso's() Im barely pushing 300hp with the majority coming from the Headers. My stock exhaust is fairly nonrestrictive for an OEM set-up, and theres no way a few simple bolt-ons will net you 60hp, or that the Intake will give you 18hp. Mods dont work like that.

The result in terms of power output of all mods does not equal the sum of the gains from each individual part. Theres alot of overlap, and some gains from one mod may be negated by another at any point on the powerband.

To answer your question about pullies, the best toget in terms of power output are from Unorthodox Racing, hands down. AEM pullies are pretty much cosmetic, the real gains come from the Crankshaft pulley.

Theres alot of debate about the lack of a Harmonic Balancer on the UR crankshaft pulley, but thats more of a concern for V-6, and I-6 engines than 4 cylinders. Some say you need the balancers, and others say since the pullies are zero gram balanced, you dont really need them and its more a NVI issue than a wear issue.

Having waited awhile after they were released, and seeing the results of of oil analyses on engines with significant miles on the pullies checking for any signs of increased bearing wear, I will be getting a full set of UR pullies shortly.

 

i know how weight and power works main...bottom line, im gettin a 7th GEN V6 engine, and modding it to 300hp...why waste money on an H22 that i'd have to do some serious work, AND turbo (which i dont want to have to take care of) just to get to 300hp. And im not talkin about 300whp hp, im talkin 300hp at the flywheel (not that im gonna stop there)...but it will be alot easier to get a 240hp engine up to 300 than it would be a 200hp engine, am i right? And i can do it without a turbo.

 

Still doesnt change a single thing I wrote. If you are going to ignore it, why waste our time offerieng any more info.

Besides if you want more power than that look in to a Type-S engine swap with a 3.5L conversion from the MDX. Thats nice even HP and torque over the entire RPM band.