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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Meshca
b16's were never ment for turbo, none of the b-series were.. but it depends on the user and his knowledge of these things to not blow the shit outa the motor, you could also try to make a safety switch for your turbo, it's been done before by someone on either this forum or hondaswap, not sure. But your best bet is to not turbo it to make sure the motor lasts. don't f*k around with certain ebay-cheap brands for turbo parts, piping yes u can go cheap, turbo=hell no, header=hell no. and b16 can handle safe levels of ~8psi, anything more is doable but not reliable, anything more it'd be good to either get new pistons and rods( which should be done anywayz) and/or get it sleeved.. but that's big dough unless you cna do it yourself

your friend there is dead wrong to assume it cant handle boost period, but he can be right if you don't boost it right, with the right tune, etc.
your an idiot. Like schmoo said, you cant judge what a motor can handle using "PSI". 8 psi from a t3, isnt gonna be the same as 8 psi from a big t4, so while your motor can handle 8 psi from a small turbo, it will blow from 8 psi from a large one. Power is what breaks your motor, and more so then that, its knock. There are some people making crazy numbers on stock blocks by simply tuning fuel to perfection and running conservative timing. The b16 is can handle boost just fine, plenty of people boost it with out issues
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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wait... 8 pounds per square inch from one turbo is different from 8 pounds per square inch of boost in another? I don't know a lot about turbos or superchargers, but 8 pounds is 8 pounds. The actual boost would be the same, I would think that there would have to be another factor if there is a difference between two turbos boosting the same amount.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ErichPryde
wait... 8 pounds per square inch from one turbo is different from 8 pounds per square inch of boost in another? I don't know a lot about turbos or superchargers, but 8 pounds is 8 pounds. The actual boost would be the same, I would think that there would have to be another factor if there is a difference between two turbos boosting the same amount.
two different sized turbo's making the same amount of boost will be pushing different cfm's. a t67 will push more cfm at 8psi than a t28 at the same psi.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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like snoopy said.

it's a volume issue that you have to add into the equasion
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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because when you translate the 8 psi from the higher volume to the lower volume, it will actually be a greater pressure. I assume then that the actual boost is read at the turbo or supercharger. the greater the change in size between the turbo and the actual intake (or whatever) the greater the actual pressure would change?

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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ErichPryde
because when you translate the 8 psi from the higher volume to the lower volume, it will actually be a greater pressure. I assume then that the actual boost is read at the turbo or supercharger. the greater the change in size between the turbo and the actual intake (or whatever) the greater the actual pressure would change?
There is a GiNormous thread around here somewhere about this whole subject. A bunch of people that really know a lot about volumetric geometry and atmospheric pressures ect. really studied it up and had a big debate about it and the conclusion was that bigger turbo at same psi nets more power. </end>

search for the thread if u wanna know more about this.. i believe there is also a big thread on this topic over at HT as well.

*edit. Time frame was about a year or so ago.

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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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Just make sure he changes his stock PCV system...
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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I know of several people who boosted their B16A's with much success.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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once I thought about it for a second it made perfect sense. when you take the volume of air in one container and move it (same volume) to a smaller one, the pressure will have to go up. makes sense.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Däs Schmoo
I have been running the Greddy kit on my stock 156k mile GSR motor for over 2 years at 10 psi. Your friend is a dumbass.
i was waiting for your post, thats it then the guy is a jackass unch:

he just bought new head studs, oil pan, hondata , and some other stuff. his american friend Joel is still telling him that it wont last 2years at 9psi, which is the boost level my cousin is considering to run with. his tuner is one of the best in st.louis, they only work on Turbo cars such as Supra, Skyline, 300ZX, and RX7's, and a few hondas here and there.

this is their site.
http://www.speedandsoundstl.com/

they recently installed a Skyline RB26DET motor into a 300ZX which was really cool to see.

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...9c001b057d.htm

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