I've heard way too many stories of people having trouble with turbos. That if you don't have it tuned just right it can create a lot of problems. Superchargers give you torque right away. We all know that Hondas=very little torque. Wouldn't i get more low end torque from a supercharger? Turbos have to spool and don't give you torque right away, am i right?

 

dude u'r going to have the same tuning issues with Forced Induction, doesn't matter if u go super charger or turbo.

Turbo = shitloads cheeper, more customizable to your application

supercharger = weak, expencive

both need the same type of tuning..

& as far as your torque complex, the supercharger isn't going to give you the torque feeling that your thinkin.. if u want torque by a v8, if u want fun power & decent gas milage, turbo your car.. if u have shit loads of money to piss away & want to do things twice, buy a supercharger.. realize that we were right.. convert to turbo & then bow down to HAN h:

 

okay i get the point, so pretty much any 4 cylinder people like to turbo, and when it comes to 6 and 8 cylinder people lean more towards superchargers right? Anyways Turbo, most of you guys piece these kits together or do u buy a full kit from greddy or the like? It's prob cheaper to piece one together, just depends on what brands u get i guess. Sounds like more work than buying a supercharger, but u guys say it's better so I guess that is the route i should go. Do they provide the same hp and torque increase as say a procharger supercharger or wouldnt u know?

 

I'll be honest in saying I don't know that much about F/I, but I will help where I can...

Most people with small engines lean towards turbo because they are of most benefit on small engines. They obstruct exhaust flow, but not enough to bother these tiny four-bangers. On a bigger engine, a super-charger tends to be the best option, because there is enough extra power sitting on the belts, and getting in the way of the exhaust flow has a more detrimental effect.

Turbo's also tend to be cheaper, and they can be rougher on the engine with equal boost amounts.

Turbo's do offer a bit more flexibilty, as they are adjustable, and they are only marginally harder to install that an SC.

 

I've thoroughly researched superchargers in the past (because turbo is a handful on the autocross course), and the ATI Procharger is without a doubt the best designed supercharger on the market. Superchargers also create a delightful powerband, which, all bandwagoning aside, is uniquely fun to drive. Its just hard to justify the cost when the same basic power goals can be met with half the money when turbocharging.

My advice, go out and find some turboed and S/C'd hondas in your area, see if you can get a ride (SCCA autocrosses are a good place to look, as well as car meets and local forums), decide which you like more, and go from there.

 

A word of advice. Don't ever make your decisions based on internet nerdery. Study up and ride/drive in cars.

:edit: and the size of an engine has no effect on whether supercharging or turbocharging works better. The principals are the same regardless of displacement, the blower just needs to be propery designed for the engine its going to be stuck on. Lingenfelter Corvette, anyone?

 

My goal is to have my car faster obviously, whether it be supercharging or turbocharging. I mean a B16A2 DOHC VTEC engine is solid, but it's nothing compared to a SOHC that is turboed. So it doesn't really matter that I have an SI, it is slow compared to even the non vtecs that are turboed. Quite honestly im getting pissed even tho i have an SI that any other civic that has turbo is faster than me. Anyone else in here with an si that has turboed? Did u piece it together or buy a kit?

 

Does anyone on HAN have experience with a Blower/Turbo system, using a supercharger at low boost as well as a BIG turbo for up top? Just curious.

 

this actually works on very few cars, and usually results in unmanagable powerbands and terrible reliability. I don't know of anyone who's tried it on a honda, but mk1 MR2 guys and a few mini-S guys have done it with some success.

SIcivic99, if your goal is simply to be faster than boosted sohcs and whatnot, you probably wont want to pay the extra one to two grand for a supercharger. There are plently of people who use complete kits and pieced-together setups. The advantage of the kit is that its designed to work together and go on your car with minimal fuss. The advantage of the home-brew is that its usually cheaper and alows you to be more selective about what parts you want to use.

 

i know it isnt a honda or an acura.... but this is crazy


http://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/i...?topic=58636.0