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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 03:24 PM
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you're a faggot :madfawk:
good one. you think of that all by yourself?

i'm not saying that killing japanese people is good, not then, not now. nor that an eye for an eye is the solution to the world's problems. but that the dropping of the atomic bombs was more than justified by the actions the japanese took during WWII. the US knew that an assault on the main islands of japan would result in more than 1 million casualties... but beside that, the fact that they slaughtered probably millions of innocent people is enough justification. i don't think any of the people involved in the atrocities were ever brought to justice. the doctors that did the experiments on POWs and civilians were all granted immunity by the US in return for the data obtained from their "research". the upper level military leaders might have been sent to court, and some of them punished or executed, but a VERY small number. nothing even close to the nuremburg trials for the nazis. to this day the japanese government still has not apologized. they have said that they did it, but that is all. they've never compensated anyone (save a few individual american POWs), they've never acknowledged their own savagry. they even change their own god damn text books so that japanese children will not learn the truth. one of my japanese friends in high school was in denial, even after living in the US for seven or eight years.
Old Aug 12, 2003 | 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by kento


you're a faggot :madfawk:
go in the corner and be quiet :slap:
Old Aug 12, 2003 | 03:28 PM
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my comment didn't have to do with whether or not i thought dropping two bombs on japan was justified or not... it was that you were hailing the instantaneous deaths of more than 250,000 innocent people.
Old Aug 12, 2003 | 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by kento
my comment didn't have to do with whether or not i thought dropping two bombs on japan was justified or not... it was that you were hailing the instantaneous deaths of more than 250,000 innocent people.
neh. you can look into it however much you want to. i stick by my words, and i think i've explained my position well enough
Old Aug 12, 2003 | 03:34 PM
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whoah, wait, what is it japan lies to their children about?

makes you wonder what we lie to our kids about.
Old Aug 12, 2003 | 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by mayonaise

neh. you can look into it however much you want to. i stick by my words, and i think i've explained my position well enough
but what it sounds like you're saying is that you're happy more innocent people died... the japanese military killing innocent people was no worse than the us killing innocent japanese people... and cheering that they did is just ****ed up.
Old Aug 12, 2003 | 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by Fujiwara Takumi
whoah, wait, what is it japan lies to their children about?

makes you wonder what we lie to our kids about.
How the spoon ran off with the knife or whatever. How'd they get married? And wehre did they go off to? And they don't have feet, how'd they get around?
Old Aug 12, 2003 | 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by Fujiwara Takumi
whoah, wait, what is it japan lies to their children about?

makes you wonder what we lie to our kids about.
about much of WWII. they make it seem like they weren't aggressive and such, and they don't mention the killing and torturing, etc etc etc. that is why my friend firmly believed that the "rape on nanking" incident never even took place - because that is what he learned as a kid in japan. i think he still believes that, even after graduating from high school in america.

sometimes i wonder if our history lessons are skewed too. i am sure they were, maybe up until the 60s. but the way our society and media is now, if any publisher did that, they'd be found out pretty quick and there would be a big scandal. heads would roll... i, for one, learned about america's cruelty towards native americans, and the japanese internment camps during WWII. we all learn about slavery, the civil rights movement...
Old Aug 12, 2003 | 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by kento
but what it sounds like you're saying is that you're happy more innocent people died... the japanese military killing innocent people was no worse than the us killing innocent japanese people... and cheering that they did is just ****ed up.
Originally posted by mayonaise
i'm not saying that killing japanese people is good, not then, not now. nor that an eye for an eye is the solution to the world's problems. but that the dropping of the atomic bombs was more than justified by the actions the japanese took during WWII. the US knew that an assault on the main islands of japan would result in more than 1 million casualties... but beside that, the fact that they slaughtered probably millions of innocent people is enough justification. i don't think any of the people involved in the atrocities were ever brought to justice. the doctors that did the experiments on POWs and civilians were all granted immunity by the US in return for the data obtained from their "research". the upper level military leaders might have been sent to court, and some of them punished or executed, but a VERY small number. nothing even close to the nuremburg trials for the nazis. to this day the japanese government still has not apologized. they have said that they did it, but that is all. they've never compensated anyone (save a few individual american POWs), they've never acknowledged their own savagry. they even change their own god damn text books so that japanese children will not learn the truth. one of my japanese friends in high school was in denial, even after living in the US for seven or eight years.
Old Aug 12, 2003 | 03:45 PM
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i dont think japanese internment camps were necessarily CRUEL, we just stuck them there for a while so shit would cool down. japanase seem to be notoriously loyal to their home country, i cant say that it was the wrong thing. i mean, this isnt like we didnt feed them or let dogs eat them and shit.



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