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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by shabacash
i get the idea
but border problems exist in various parts of the world. bombing capitals is a different story.
heard the palestines had missles that could reach tel aviv? (correct if wrong)

Originally Posted by fathergoat
so if I spank my child in this country that makes me evil, but if I strap a bomb to my daughter in Iraq I'm father of the year? WTF is wrong with this fucked up world
wonder what happens if you strap a bomb to a daughter here?

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so it's OK to kill innocent people if you don't have a big budget?
only if you use knives

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well that is why America bombed all the schools, hospitals, mosques, then converted all the Iraqis to christianity and stole all the oil.
well since they hid everything else pretty pointless to waste munitions? they are still Muslim and we dont have the oil
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Craigorz
One word on why this shit usually occurs in this part of the world: religion.

Here in the states, its usually just nut-jobs that do shit like this.
And now the thread is gonna go to hell..
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkStarr
And now the thread is gonna go to hell..
Im sorry, but thats how I feel. Its a twist of extremism that allows for people to believe with every ounce of their being that its perfectly fine to do so because a higher being wants it to be done. So you really cant blame the person who was raised from day one with that overbearing sensation that its justified in the name of a god.

How many suicide bombings have happened recently to non-religious efforts?

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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by fathergoat
you're right, they should have bombed cafes, night clubs, and buses instead.


I'm just sick of this double standard bullshit. An American can't walk a dog past a shirtless Iraqi without some hippie crying foul. But Iraqis chop the head off a reporter with a rusty knife and "that's just the only way they know to fight back". Face it, the only reason people are defending those people is because they hate America. If this was some French woman bombing and Italian school we would all agree that it's fucked up. So why can't we all just agree that targeting innocent people is fucked up and wrong regardless of who it is?

Who the fuck said it was ok? and who is defending "these people"? Just because the members are saying that "these people" do it because they feel like this is there only way out it doesn't meant hat we agree with what they are doing.

If by miracle russia invades the USA take control of the the gouvernment and all its assets, killed thousands of innocent people and hunt down any group that create resistense to the new gouvernment. they take away your arms. whats is it that the population would do? youd stay there and be controled? or would you create groups, societies, cells and try to rebel. Still it doesn't work, they keep controling everything you do. you might fight back with mortars but if you do that they send f16 to bomb you... so i ask you would you do? how would you get the attention of the world?
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 01:52 PM
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we could play the tit for tat game all muthafuckinday. But the truth is some people will always look for any excuse to condemn America and condone terrorists. Targeting civilians is wrong, period. If that bomb was dropped on civilians on purpose or even out of neglect the people involved should be punished.
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Tark
Who the fuck said it was ok? and who is defending "these people"? Just because the members are saying that "these people" do it because they feel like this is there only way out it doesn't meant hat we agree with what they are doing.

If by miracle russia invades the USA take control of the the gouvernment and all its assets, killed thousands of innocent people and hunt down any group that create resistense to the new gouvernment. they take away your arms. whats is it that the population would do? youd stay there and be controled? or would you create groups, societies, cells and try to rebel. Still it doesn't work, they keep controling everything you do. you might fight back with mortars but if you do that they send f16 to bomb you... so i ask you would you do? how would you get the attention of the world?
i would think all the hippies in this country would try to talk it out with the russians when they get here pointing their guns
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CRAIGHIMSELF
Im sorry, but thats how I feel. Its a twist of extremism that allows for people to believe with every ounce of their being that its perfectly fine to do so because a higher being wants it to be done. So you really cant blame the person who was raised from day one with that overbearing sensation that its justified in the name of a god.

How many suicide bombings have happened recently to non-religious efforts?

Good times.
many more then you would beleive. Palestine conflist is about land and power not about religion. Jew dont give a fuck that they are Muslims and Muslims dont care that they are Jews. It's all about land and power of that land.

Same for Iraq, i'm not sure why you think that suicide bombing are about religion. Its about control and power.
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Tark
Who the fuck said it was ok? and who is defending "these people"? Just because the members are saying that "these people" do it because they feel like this is there only way out it doesn't meant hat we agree with what they are doing.

If by miracle russia invades the USA take control of the the gouvernment and all its assets, killed thousands of innocent people and hunt down any group that create resistense to the new gouvernment. they take away your arms. whats is it that the population would do? youd stay there and be controled? or would you create groups, societies, cells and try to rebel. Still it doesn't work, they keep controling everything you do. you might fight back with mortars but if you do that they send f16 to bomb you... so i ask you would you do? how would you get the attention of the world?
I would kill soldiers not school children.
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fathergoat
we could play the tit for tat game all muthafuckinday. But the truth is some people will always look for any excuse to condemn America and condone terrorists. Targeting civilians is wrong, period. If that bomb was dropped on civilians on purpose or even out of neglect the people involved should be punished.
but thats the problem that whole war in Iraq was started for nothing. those people should be condone but they aren't. Iraq was such a little threat to the USA ans now the war is costing alot more to the USA then Saddam could ever immagine. In a way he won, or even a better way of putting it the USA lost. and between all of it many many innocent people died on both sides.
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fathergoat
I would kill soldiers not school children.
if soldiers are not there? you could kill russian people to try to discourage the russian gouverment from continuing.

Originally Posted by Nec
i would think all the hippies in this country would try to talk it out with the russians when they get here pointing their guns
i dont get your Point of view
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