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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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i'm talking about specifically muslims / arabs and a certain case in particular:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,410921,00.html
Iraqi police released dramatic photos of a teenage girl who apparently was ready to blow herself up in front of a school in Baqouba.
When police approached her outside the school Sunday afternoon, she was crying and gave no indication she knew about the explosives she was wearing under her colorful robes.
The girl, who identified herself as Rania, told police that she was wearing a vest — which turned out to be packed with 33 pounds of explosives — and that two women, perhaps her husband's relatives, had told her to wait outside the school. She said her husband personally had fitted her for the vest.
Iraqi police said Monday the girl's father also was a suicide bomber, and that her mother and a sister later were arrested.
U.S. sources, however, told the Daily Mail that the girl turned herself in after being hooked up to the explosives against her will.
The near-disaster was captured on video that police released to reporters Monday. Images from the video show a distraught girl with her arms tied behind her back, the result of police attempts to restrain her.
A policeman is shown opening her robe, and later, she is seen wearing what appears to be the vest found stuffed with plastic explosives.
Police told the Daily Mail that the girl took them back to the apartment where she was given the vest, and they found another bomb device there.
A policeman standing next to her could be heard saying that when she was picked up, she was unable to talk and appeared to have been given drugs.
if what she says is true that is just disgusting, i really dont understand how someone could take their own wife, strap a bomb onto them and force them to die .... just to kill others. and dont give me the "different cultures different ideals" this is just plain fucked up. this is your own blood, your wife ... and you drug her and strap a bomb and send her off crying and scared. and yet the culture you are in sees that as heroic somehow?

i met someone like that i'd honestly have a hard time not killing them myself ...
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by rebeld

if I met someone like that i'd honestly have a hard time not killing them myself ...

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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 11:59 AM
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Then if you don't want to accept the different cultures and different family values in a different culture explanation you will NEVER be able to understand why they do what they do.
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 12:00 PM
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horrible
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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Then if you don't want to accept the different cultures and different family values in a different culture explanation you will NEVER be able to understand why they do what they do.
bullshit

give me one valid reason that its morally or humanly acceptable to strap a bomb to someones chest, drug them and force them to blow themselves up in an effort to kill other people ... you honestly think that that is ok in any religious or moral institutions beliefs?

there is NOTHING right about forcing innocent people to do the work you are too much of a pussy to do yourself, you dont like someone and really want to kill someone do it yourself, dont force your wife to do it for you against her will and killing her in the process
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by lil_1_2002
Then if you don't want to accept the different cultures and different family values in a different culture explanation you will NEVER be able to understand why they do what they do.
your right i dont want to understand cultures that suicide bomb schools

i want to kill them
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by thomas
your right i dont want to understand cultures that suicide bomb schools

i want to kill them
seriously ...

blowing up schools does ONE thing ... turns everyone against you

sure killing a bunch of militants or soldiers pisses a certain group off but these were people already commited to the actions

killing children ... that turns people who may not have cared for you but didnt hate you against you ... and then to use another innocent on top of that to do it ... absolutely sick

like thomas said, anyone who thinks openly killing children is right ... has no place on this earth
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 12:08 PM
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I'm not saying its right, I'm just saying that's how it is. weather you or i or anyone else in America likes it. its hundreds of years of this type of religious upbringing. maybe not the drugging and all that stuff, but defiantly the dying for what they believe in even if its religion. I'm just saying that you cant understand them if you approach the situation with the American mindset, when sometimes all these people have is their honor and they believe that dying for something will ensure then eternal life, you cant fault them for this because YOU dont believe it to be true.
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by lil_1_2002
I'm not saying its right, I'm just saying that's how it is. weather you or i or anyone else in America likes it. its hundreds of years of this type of religious upbringing. maybe not the drugging and all that stuff, but defiantly the dying for what they believe in even if its religion. I'm just saying that you cant understand them if you approach the situation with the American mindset, when sometimes all these people have is their honor and they believe that dying for something will ensure then eternal life, you cant fault them for this because YOU dont believe it to be true.
so wait

their religion says that its totally ok to strap a bomb to an innocent individual and blow up lil kids for what YOU believe in?

wow ... thats one hell of a religion


i never said dying for what you believe in is wrong, if there was an overbearing force on my beliefs i would die fighting them too but i would not do things like kill innocent children who did nothing more than were born and i certainly wouldnt strap bombs to innocents so i could live ... what kind of life is that killing children?
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rebeld
bullshit

give me one valid reason that its morally or humanly acceptable to strap a bomb to someones chest, drug them and force them to blow themselves up in an effort to kill other people ... you honestly think that that is ok in any religious or moral institutions beliefs?
Am i discusted by it? sure... but there is usually more to the story. Also this is somewhat of a isolated case so it might not be representative of a whole "culture".
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