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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 08:07 AM
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terrorists want obama to be in office so we pull out of iraq and afghanistan so they can take those places over.

if you vote for obama you vote for terrorism. hillary should hire me!
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 08:07 AM
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Yup, i'd be a great president.
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightshade
A superpower only needs to be able to stop any invading force

so if they were attacked they could dry up the oil supply and just hold their ground until the attacking countries supplies ran out.

That my friend in todays world is truly a powerful country.
eh, except i dont see iran as being able to do that with say the US.

sure maybe they hamper it, but with the increasing sanctions theres no way that they could.

not to mention, a country that relies on the majority of their income to be provided through oil cant just stop pumping it.

how are they going to pay for their shit? they may hamper the invading force but are also going to greatly hamper their own.

and in irans case, to top it off. they have very crude and poor refining skills. i believe a majority of their oil / fuel they use internally is refined by others for them.

i still say they are far from a super power
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 08:13 AM
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eh, except i dont see iran as being able to do that with say the US.

sure maybe they hamper it, but with the increasing sanctions theres no way that they could.

not to mention, a country that relies on the majority of their income to be provided through oil cant just stop pumping it.

how are they going to pay for their shit? they may hamper the invading force but are also going to greatly hamper their own.

and in irans case, to top it off. they have very crude and poor refining skills. i believe a majority of their oil / fuel they use internally is refined by others for them.

i still say they are far from a super power
I wasn't saying Iran I mentioned in my first post that "If it were Saudi Arabia saying this I would be more inclined to agree".

Then I replied to your comment on what a superpower is and what it means...in the end all a superpower has to do is have a way of putting a large part of the rest of the world to it's knees whether it be by military might or financial strategery. One is just as strong as the other if you can cripple a country in a single move
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightshade
I wasn't saying Iran I mentioned in my first post that "If it were Saudi Arabia saying this I would be more inclined to agree".

Then I replied to your comment on what a superpower is and what it means...in the end all a superpower has to do is have a way of putting a large part of the rest of the world to it's knees whether it be by military might or financial strategery. One is just as strong as the other if you can cripple a country in a single move
ahhh i thought you were speaking about Iran ...

SA ... yea to a point i agree.

but your point about SA will only stand for so long, like i said , the problem with a country that relies on oil for its wealth is destined to have problems sooner or later. Non-renewable ftl
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by rebeld
ahhh i thought you were speaking about Iran ...

SA ... yea to a point i agree.

but your point about SA will only stand for so long, like i said , the problem with a country that relies on oil for its wealth is destined to have problems sooner or later. Non-renewable ftl
OK by that reasoning then how would the US fair if the entire middle east said "fuck you get your own damn oil"?

Not very well really since we would be forced to use our "100 year reserves" when the country in question has something like a 400+ year reserve once they cut out the largest purchaser of oil.

I don't think you quite understand how reliant we are on oil as a nation...I mean I am sure you know it but I don't think the extent of dependency is something you really grasp. Something of this nature would stand the chance to financially destroy this country especially at this point and time in history. As it stands the US is hurting and it would only take a few more crippling blows to drop the country to it's knees in a manner of speaking.
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 08:25 AM
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bomb them back to the stoneage oh wait the people almost live in the stoneage already so just get the palaces that the douche lives at we dont have to invade anymore we can send are uav's in
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 08:26 AM
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OK by that reasoning then how would the US fair if the entire middle east said "fuck you get your own damn oil"?

Not very well really since we would be forced to use our "100 year reserves" when the country in question has something like a 400+ year reserve once they cut out the largest purchaser of oil.

I don't think you quite understand how reliant we are on oil as a nation...I mean I am sure you know it but I don't think the extent of dependency is something you really grasp. Something of this nature would stand the chance to financially destroy this country especially at this point and time in history. As it stands the US is hurting and it would only take a few more crippling blows to drop the country to it's knees in a manner of speaking.
where did i say i didnt understand that? im saying you are completely right for now

but that time of dependency is going to end, that time when they have what everyone needs is going to end. then what? then the middle east will have about as much importance as places like chile uraguay, none.

i understand perfectly how reliant this nation is on oil. im just pointing out that your line of though is only a temporary one, it wont continue forever and if these countries in the middle east truly wish to be a super power and remain one they need to find alternatives to their income and source of world power.
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 08:33 AM
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I agree but until the time comes that our country and others stop relying on oil we are at their mercy.

Nobody mentioned how long a country had to be a superpower, only that a country is or was a superpower at one point or another.

With the way things are the middle east could likely stay a power as a group for the better part of the next 100 years if they were to drop their differences and band together as a group.

Amazing how you can have 75 gangs in a city all fighting for control and all it takes is a couple of smart people to put differences aside, align the groups as a force and they all own the city instantly...now do this on a national scale and see what happens.
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightshade
I agree but until the time comes that our country and others stop relying on oil we are at their mercy.

Nobody mentioned how long a country had to be a superpower, only that a country is or was a superpower at one point or another.

With the way things are the middle east could likely stay a power as a group for the better part of the next 100 years if they were to drop their differences and band together as a group.

Amazing how you can have 75 gangs in a city all fighting for control and all it takes is a couple of smart people to put differences aside, align the groups as a force and they all own the city instantly...now do this on a national scale and see what happens.
all true, but completely moot since we all know this will never happen. not to mention the original topic wasnt wether a geographic region could band together but the ludicracy of Irans statement.

the middle east will never nor could never band together as one unified front, there are too many different lines of thought in such a small region. these countries are full of people who believe in their religious beliefs too strongly and view all others as wrong or evil. they have been fighting for thousands of years, theres no chance of them changing that in any time period for them to have any effect on the world
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