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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by skabone69
they are here in AZ. Illegals are driving down the wages of the high paying construction jobs. so they are taking the jobs americans do want to do.
so americans dont want to pick food at farms?
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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Minimum wage in MI is up to like 6.90 now...thats only one of three raises to be done this year.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by F22B Prelude
Minimum wage in MI is up to like 6.90 now...thats only one of three raises to be done this year.
that was the first of three happening over the next 12 months by next july it will have gone up twice....

i saw that on the news the other day and first thing came to mind was granholm trying to win more voters so she doesnt lose teh goveners office
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by rebeld
one of my customers is a very large farm/canning factory and they do hire mexican workers(of the legal kind). the problems many ofthese farms face is that alot of these illegal workers when coming to apply for jobs show all the necessary documentation showing them as legal and able to work in the US. problem is alot of these "legal documents" are actually fakes and forgeries. it happens, and for example at this farm denny, the guy in charge, only really finds out wich ones are illegals when they hear the immigration officers are on their way from the factory to the fields.....all the illegals dissapear and then show up as soon as the officers are gone.
why don't they make sure a potential employee's documentation is legit before hiring them? when they do suspect someone is an illegal immigrant, do they fire them?
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mayonaise
why don't they make sure a potential employee's documentation is legit before hiring them? when they do suspect someone is an illegal immigrant, do they fire them?

they go to the extent they are required to check legality, obviously they know some are going to lie so im assuming they purposly dont check that hard. as long as there is enough provided documentation they are sastified. and no they dont fire them simply because of suspicions. i imagine that even though they are illegal they have some sort of workers rights where the business has to have proof and cant just guess.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by skabone69
this problem will force innovation. it happened back in the 60s with tomato pickers. it happed after slavery ended with the cotton fields, and the cotton gin was invented. someone will find a way to make a machine that will do the work faster and cheaper that a human can. the only reason they use people is because its cheap now. give it 5 years and they will have machines out in the fields doing what people used to do. innovation is the American way, you over come challanges. The price of produce will not go up drastically, the thing that cost the most with produce is transportation cost. considering gas prices have dropped we shouldn't see a major change in produce.
The cotton gin was invented during slavery by a slave (Eli Whitney) and did nothing to decrease slave ownership nor did it make their life easier.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MellowGold
The cotton gin was invented during slavery by a slave (Eli Whitney) and did nothing to decrease slave ownership nor did it make their life easier.
Thats what I was thinking. It was invented in the 18th century and it made the cotton industry immensely profitable, therefore increasing the demand for slaves.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MellowGold
The cotton gin was invented during slavery by a slave (Eli Whitney) and did nothing to decrease slave ownership nor did it make their life easier.
werd the cotton gin didnt actually pick the cotton, it seperated the seeds and removed husks thereby increasing the amount of cotton that could be proccessed each day, dramatically increasing profits to plantation owners and increasing the number of slaves they could own to pick more cotton per day
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MellowGold
The cotton gin was invented during slavery by a slave (Eli Whitney) and did nothing to decrease slave ownership nor did it make their life easier.
I think you need to go back to 10th grade History class lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli_Whitney
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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You gotta pay teenagers at least minimum wage. You can pay an illegal $2.50/hr if you want to. If the farmers recruited teenagers to pick, they would be spending more on paying the kids than they made by selling the produce.
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