Immigrants and learning English
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But you know, if we went anywhere, lets say France, theyd treat us the exact same way as we do with orthodox hispanics. Im sure the smelly French wouldnt cut us any slack. Fuck it. I know the language thats world renown so Im not sweating.
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From: The boonies, CT
If they are going to come into an English speaking country they should be prepared. The English speaking people shouldn't have to go out of their way to accomidate for people who can't.
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From: Arizona
Originally Posted by CRAIGHIMSELF
But you know, if we went anywhere, lets say France, theyd treat us the exact same way as we do with orthodox hispanics. Im sure the smelly French wouldnt cut us any slack. Fuck it. I know the language thats world renown so Im not sweating.
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Originally Posted by totalimmortal
I think we need to put ourselves in their shoes at some point. If you moved to another country, how long would it take you to learn the language?? It's very ignorant to just say "Learn english or go back to your country".
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From: Twixt Hell/Ann Arbor MI
Originally Posted by End of Eternity
http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20060720...ertohealthcare
Should we make them learn English or should we learn Spanish better?
... or should we get better translators?
Should we make them learn English or should we learn Spanish better?
... or should we get better translators?
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From: Holyoke, MA
little does everyone know. the us senate passed a bill a while back that made english the official language of the usa. so to them i say get translators. they came here knowing english is the language of usa.
http://www.democrats.com/node/8972
and you know what. any other country in the world. if you go there, you have to learn their language first. so i dont feel pitty at all.
http://www.democrats.com/node/8972
and you know what. any other country in the world. if you go there, you have to learn their language first. so i dont feel pitty at all.
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Originally Posted by totalimmortal
I think we need to put ourselves in their shoes at some point. If you moved to another country, how long would it take you to learn the language?? It's very ignorant to just say "Learn english or go back to your country".
But OTOH..I feel like it's equally unrealistic to expect our educational, governmental and health-care systems to take on the expense of becoming multi-lingual institutions.
English is still the predominant language in this country; accordingly, there ought to be a concerted effort on the part of those who immigrate to assimilate and learn the English language.
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From: Asheville, NC
Originally Posted by ACS S3 3.0
FUCK THAT!!!!! My parents moved to this country and didnt know English except for a few words. What did they do? They took English lessons at night school after they went to work during the day. It took some time till they were fluent but they didnt rely on anyone learning their language or anyone helping translate. Anyone can learn you just have to want to and most people dont want to because they can get around it through translators and Spanish speaking phone menus. I dont see a Russian phone menu when I call the state department or cambodian phone menu.
Originally Posted by TheOtherDave™
Agreed. To expect the transition to be instantaneous is unrealistic.
But OTOH..I feel like it's equally unrealistic to expect our educational, governmental and health-care systems to take on the expense of becoming multi-lingual institutions.
English is still the predominant language in this country; accordingly, there ought to be a concerted effort on the part of those who immigrate to assimilate and learn the English language.
But OTOH..I feel like it's equally unrealistic to expect our educational, governmental and health-care systems to take on the expense of becoming multi-lingual institutions.
English is still the predominant language in this country; accordingly, there ought to be a concerted effort on the part of those who immigrate to assimilate and learn the English language.
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From: New Orleans
Originally Posted by totalimmortal
i saw a biker with a jacket that said "Learn english or go home" I just thought it was a very ignorant statement. Everyones learning curve is far different.