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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by totalimmortal
That's exactly what I mean. For all we know, the person maybe be struggling their asses off to learn our language. English is one of the hardest languages to learn, it's soo damn backwards. Calm down. ...

You get what I'm trying to say. A language doesn't come over night. We don't know that preson, they may be going to classes every day/night and struggling to learn English.
Oh absolutely..English syntax is just plain nuts. I readily admit that. There needs to be a reasonable balance and also the resources necessary to encourage people to learn the native tongue.

I know that if I wind up working as a foreign correspondent later on, I'll need to learn the language of the region I'm sent to. So, just as I would make the effort to cross the language barrier, so should those coming to America.
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by zma21
So why the hell would a whole country convert because immigrants are coming into OUR country? :dunno:
I didn't say that. It's just an ignorant statement. Not everyone that comes here is lazy. If anything, many are very hard working people. Dave(hope thats your real name) and I have both said it, the learning curve is far from instant or overnight. You can tell the people that are really trying from those that don't even care to learn a word of English. I don't care about people that don't care about bettering themselves.

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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ACS S3 3.0
FUCK THAT!!!!! My parents moved to this country and didnt know English except for a few words. What did they do? They took English lessons at night school after they went to work during the day. It took some time till they were fluent but they didnt rely on anyone learning their language or anyone helping translate. Anyone can learn you just have to want to and most people dont want to because they can get around it through translators and Spanish speaking phone menus. I dont see a Russian phone menu when I call the state department or cambodian phone menu.
Ditto, same with my parents. They even got rid of their accents for the most part.
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by totalimmortal
I think we need to put ourselves in their shoes at some point. If you moved to another country, how long would it take you to learn the language?? It's very ignorant to just say "Learn english or go back to your country".
Umm...sorry man but you are the ignorant one here. many don't even bother to attempt to learn the language.

Of course why should they when an english speaking nation prints any information in 15 different languages and doesn't hire anyone unless they are bilingual.

Get real man I a call my phone provider, water company, cable company and they have menus in at least two languages if not more. why are we catering to their lazy asses? All it does is cost us more money to be able to offer services in their language than the cost of the services themselves.

If I moved to another country I would make every effort to speak the predominant language in that country. It would be stupid to expect everyone else around me to learn my language and it would be stupider still to argue discrimination when they didn't.
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 07:35 PM
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I can understand both sides of the arguement. But in the very least... Please, please learn to carry on a very simple conversation. Greetings and goodbyes, the number system... Basics. I mean, I live between two corn field, and at my retail job I often have a problem helping Hispanic customers because of the lack of communication. I took four semesters of Spanish in high school, but over time such things become rusty... I don't plan on learning any more Spanish unless I decide to visit Spain.

When I began seeing 2 languages on bags of Doritos... I got worried.
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by catatonic

When I began seeing 2 languages on bags of Doritos... I got worried.
Pringles cans are probably worse. Peep that shit.
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 11:01 PM
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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I teach esl for a living/passtime, and belive me, most of them would love to be fluent in english, the just have no clue where to begin
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 11:45 PM
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I still don't know why they get pissed at me for not knowing what they are saying :sad: It makes me sad...
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