am i the only one that thinks that this charge is totally retarded??


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11057077/

Priest could face trial for saying Jesus existed
Italian judge hears arguments on whether church deceiving believers

VITERBO, Italy - An Italian judge heard arguments Friday on whether a small-town parish priest should stand trial for asserting that Jesus Christ existed.

The priest’s atheist accuser, Luigi Cascioli, says the Roman Catholic Church has been deceiving people for 2,000 years with a fable that Christ existed, and that the Rev. Enrico Righi violated two Italian laws by reasserting the claim.


i mean what the heck. are we supposed to accuse all religious, non-secular workers of spreading lies?

 

This has got to be the most ridiculous double post of all time.

 

i agree. stupid lag. admin, please delete other post.

 

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https://www.honda-acura.net/forums/s...=Jesus+existed

but anyway I don't like religions so I actually see it as a positive thing. People need to stop taking all this stuff so literally and just realize that the important thing is being a good person...not following arbitrary made up rules.

 

positive thing? dude, you don't like religions, fine. but people have a right to worship whatever they want. who has the right say that what they're worshipping is bogus? a lawyer? an atheist with an agenda? please..

this is bullshit, through and through.

 

I didn't say that they don't have the right to worship whatever they want...I don't think that the church has the right to pass stories off as facts. They can say "this is what we think" happaned...or "in the story of Jesus...". I think that this case is good because it will make people step back and realize what is important and what isn't. Do I think that it is really important whether he exsisted or not...no....but do I think the case is good....yes.
I've noticed this within my own family...they get all caught up on "Jesus said this" and "Jesus said that"....I think if people aren't really sure if he exsisted or not they will look at the important points like be a good person and don't steal or kill people...not Jesus/god said being gay is a sin or I can't eat meat on fridays and other bullshit rules like that.

 

wait a minute. that's their whole point of existance, that they believe these stories are fact. and if that's what they believe, why shouldn't they be allowed to pass these stories as fact to individuals who choose to participate?

besides, the whole church revolves around faith. they have faith in what they believe. if they start prefixing everything with, "we think this..", or "we're not sure, but...", then what is the point? it totally contradicts everything that they stand for.

so explain to me why they shouldn't have that right? what are the implications that you're afraid of?

and remember, what happens within your own family is your problem. if your family is trying to force ideals down your throat, that's your own issue. the church chooses to teach to those that have made the conscious decision to be present for the teachings. i'm not aware of any normal church that goes out of their way to force their beliefs onto someone. i'm sure this is the case with that parish in italy as well.

 

yeah if this priest guy was harassing the hell (no pun intended) out of locals forcing them to conform, then heck yeah id be pissed off. but i dont think thats the case. yeah you'll have a few radical retards out there, but like reno said, most churches or places of worship are just there for people to come to. and when it comes down to it, all of these places are about your right to choose whether to believe or not.

 

Have you ever had a Jehovah's witness knock on your door? Or perhaps been to a public festival when people are yelling into megaphones about sin and the fires of hell? Or have you ever been aggressively forced to take a new testament from some strangers handing them out outside of your school?

Yeah, all those happen to me on a regular basis. It sucks ass.

Anyway, the trial is probably a joke. If it isn't, it'll be thrown out soon enough.Considering the nature of Italy and the Catholic Church, it will go no where.

 

I agree with Labarinth.

They are trying to pass off myth as fact. Sure if they want to believe those myths themselves fine, but don't try to tell other people they are facts.

It's exactly the same situation if I just made up some names and started walking around telling people these are our gods. It's not fact, it's not true, it's a lie.

Yes you are allowed to lie, first amendment right. But lie to the point that people actually start believing these stories as fact is too far.

A business is not allowed to go around spouting lies about anything. You can be accused of slander if you go around telling lies about someone else. Why should religion be allowed to pass off these myths as fact?

I hope the guy wins.