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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 07:35 AM
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That is an old quote from me. A pre 1975 has no test in CA, no visual, no tailpipe. It is pretty random, my intake has no sticker or number on it, never a comment, I have not been asked for proof of insurance on any of my vehicles since I came back to CA in 2002. They don't even check if the brakelights work, and they are going to say a car is illegal because the ignition timing is off by 1 degree, who are they trying to help, because it definitely is not me.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by augy
How "exempt" are pre-'75 cars? Are there any restrictions at all on their emissions? Do they even need an exhaust system at all? I'm thinking about putting my civic and crx back to stock as dailys and getting some muscle for the weekends. Eh? eh?
Completely exempt.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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Just noticed this thread is several months old, oops
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by antarius
Completely exempt.
Well if they have smog devices, the cars still need them and they need to function. Just because the car doesn't need to be smogged doesn't mean they can have their devices removed.

Also there is a new law that has already been passed, 1974 and older cars are smogged exempt, no more 30 years and older cars smog exempt.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Tobra
First you need to understand what the emmissions laws are for. The smog laws are to generate revenue, not control emmissions. Otherwise, commercial vehicles would not be exempt. Lack of a CARB EO # indicates that the manufacturer was unwilling to pay the freight to get one. All cars pre-1976 have no restrictions at all. If your car is a classic or collector car, whatever that means, after it is 35 years old it has to pass tailpipe test, but no visual. All this means is I need to trade my 1979 VW for a 1975, if I can find one even close to as clean as mine. Then I can do whatever. The bug did not have to pass any emmissions test in 1979, they did not start that nonsense until the 80's. They just sort of decided on a standard it would have to pass. Most of the vehicle laws in CA are to generate revenue. All us car guys in California need to get off our collective asses and bitch to our representatives, or more accurately, more of the rest of you guys need to do it too.
I don't know where you get the idea that the smog laws are just there to generate revenue. Although I'm sure it does bring in money. But it really is to reduce emissions. California's smog is pretty bad. LA's ambient air is considerered to be the worst in the nation. Pollution affects your health remember?

In order for a part to have a CARB EO#, the developer needs to have the California Air Resource Board's engineers test it out and see if the product produces more smog, or less or if it develops the same amount of smog the engine was already producing. Of course, if it less or the same amount, the part gets passed.They just don't pay a fee and then the part gets passed.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 12:56 AM
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NH cars can be shitting oil out of the tail pipe and we don't give a fvck. h:

But starting in April all OBDII cars will have to meet a light emissions requirement.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by e30dood
I don't know where you get the idea that the smog laws are just there to generate revenue. Although I'm sure it does bring in money. But it really is to reduce emissions. California's smog is pretty bad. LA's ambient air is considerered to be the worst in the nation. Pollution affects your health remember?
I don't know, maybe because commercial vehicles are exempt from any testing. Please don't try to tell me that an 18 wheeler is blowing water vapor and sunshine out its tailpipe. The nastiest oil burning hooptie piece of junk car is probably blowing less crap than a clean burning diesel. The smog laws are poorly conceived and ineffective at doing what they are supposedly intended to do. LA and Houston battle it out for worst air all the time. Cali has had their smog BS for 20 years and Texas does not do crap, and LA still is smoggier sometimes, go figure. IF the state of CA was really that interested in air quality and public health, they would be looking at everything, not just passenger cars when they are only a part of the problem. The role that private vehicles play in the produciton of smog shrinks every year, as they get the cars to be cleaner and cleaner. The people making the rules are in bed with the people they are regulating. Private citizens don't have anyone lobbying the legislature for them, and our representatives here are beholden to them. You may have heard about our Governor getting booted for this sort of thing, and more recently our Secretary of State resigned because he is a crook and got caught.

BTW, that law that recently became effective from that lesbian bed-wetting bitch lieber exempts 1975 and older vehicles. They don't check, and you can take off your Fuel Injection for Carburettors, remove EGR filters, smog pumps or Catalysts. They are exempt, means just what it says. For "classic" vehicles, a nebulous, poorly defined type of car, 35 years old and older, the visual inspection is deferred. They do the sniff test, but do not open the hood, so technically, if I can get it to run clean enough, I could put a dual carb monster motor in my bug in 10 years.
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