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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 09:18 AM
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Black2000GSR
What's a "National ID Card"?

Instead of a state ID/driver's license, it would be national.

The only people I've run into that have a problem with national IDs are full-out tinfoil hat wearing paranoids.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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National ID card is like having to carry a passport to travel within the US' own border. This ID card would only be an ID card but would be nationally recognized as uniform document.

The problem with it that I see is that it could be copied and forged easily regardless of how they do it....they did the new $20s less than a year after release This would mean illegal aliens and all that comes with it could easily obtain them. This is only one of many potential issues with it aside from causing a police state like action to follow in its creation.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 09:22 AM
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National ID card is more work than its worth, as far as im concerned.

we have state ID, if it is legit then doesnt that declare our citizenship?
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 09:25 AM
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With the current ID system, security is only as strong as the weakest link... you forge whichever state has the least security measures, and use that. I really don't see the difference, aside from the potential money savings of 1 entity designing and implementing security measures as opposed to 50.


Nowhere was it ever said that you would be required to carry the card... just as currently, you don't need to have a driver's license/state ID... it's just that if you get into some trouble with the law, you've got a good chance of going through a lot of hassle that could have been prevented had you been able to identify yourself.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 09:35 AM
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Then a national id wouldn't be bad at all then.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by qtiger
With the current ID system, security is only as strong as the weakest link... you forge whichever state has the least security measures, and use that. I really don't see the difference, aside from the potential money savings of 1 entity designing and implementing security measures as opposed to 50.


Nowhere was it ever said that you would be required to carry the card... just as currently, you don't need to have a driver's license/state ID... it's just that if you get into some trouble with the law, you've got a good chance of going through a lot of hassle that could have been prevented had you been able to identify yourself.
You ever been walking down the street and stopped and talked to by a cop "just checking" and he asks for your ID?

I had it happen once and almost got arrested for not having my ID on me, I had forgot it at home. He hassled me about not having it long enough to the point I got mad and said some things I do not regret one bit.

Now you may think that not having to carry an ID or a license is an option but I don't think its so much an option anymore. One other example is that an officer can now ask to see your ID at any point and for any reason...or none in particular. The person in question must provide it or can be detained in some form until proof of identity is attained.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 10:06 AM
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I say they just tattoo bar codes on our foreheads.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightshade
You ever been walking down the street and stopped and talked to by a cop "just checking" and he asks for your ID?

I had it happen once and almost got arrested for not having my ID on me, I had forgot it at home. He hassled me about not having it long enough to the point I got mad and said some things I do not regret one bit.

Now you may think that not having to carry an ID or a license is an option but I don't think its so much an option anymore. One other example is that an officer can now ask to see your ID at any point and for any reason...or none in particular. The person in question must provide it or can be detained in some form until proof of identity is attained.
that would piss me off to no end. i leave my license in my truck, i dont see the purpose of carrying it everywhere i go.
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