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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 12:48 PM
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since we are talking 200-400 years from now anyway, industry will likely be 100% automated. i have to believe that pollution will be near zero. while we cant reverse the damage we've already done to earth, it is safe to say that if we inhabited a new planet, pollution would be of little concern.

also on the topic of technology and automation, i have to say that maybe using mars for things other than life might be practical... for example, certain industries could remain on mars?

im not trying to do a 180 on my point of view, i still believe what i believe however i feel if we must spend the money here, we should think more practically than starting life on an entirely new planet.
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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ISP James
also on the topic of technology and automation, i have to say that maybe using mars for things other than life might be practical... for example, certain industries could remain on mars?
Great point. There's plenty of scifi shows that have whole planets just for manufacturing something(s).

Imagine a whole planet for making cars. They'd have a whole planet full of people who do nothing but design and make cars. Or machines helping a lot I'm sure. But with that kind of dedication, just imagine what they could come up with. Generations of people doing nothing but making cars, a whole planet of them.

Maybe not cars but some form of transportation.

Or how about a planet that just makes food. Food for 5 other planets.
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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 12:55 PM
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i like the food idea. a planet dedicated to raising cows. :yumyum: i'd love to live there. filet mignon for breakfast!
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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by clickwir
Great point. There's plenty of scifi shows that have whole planets just for manufacturing something(s).

Imagine a whole planet for making cars. They'd have a whole planet full of people who do nothing but design and make cars. Or machines helping a lot I'm sure. But with that kind of dedication, just imagine what they could come up with. Generations of people doing nothing but making cars, a whole planet of them.

Maybe not cars but some form of transportation.

Or how about a planet that just makes food. Food for 5 other planets.

thats what im talkin about. but like i say, in 200 years i dont imagine people will have much to do with many aspects of industry and there will certainly be no "working class" as we know it today. in fact i have to wonder if people will even design or will we have computers that are capable of finding newer better cheaper ways of producing better product designs.

pick any industry.... or all industry.... produced on one planet, then we would just need a way to transport the gear back to earth....

like i said before i think that it is a far more feasible, acheivalble goal to bring mars to life than to bring life to mars.
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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 12:58 PM
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i like the food idea. a planet dedicated to raising cows. :yumyum: i'd love to live there. filet mignon for breakfast!
could we get the calves back to earth in time to still have good veil? :yumyum:
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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ISP James
could we get the calves back to earth in time to still have good veil? :yumyum:
we deliver it to your planet live and have someone kill it right after you sign for it.
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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RB26DETT
we deliver it to your planet live and have someone kill it right after you sign for it.
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just as long as it gets here realllllllllllll soon after its born.... cant have my veil alive for too too long....

imagine frieght costs
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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 01:07 PM
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eh, i imagine that there will be a quicker/more efficient way to travel in space by then.

hyperspace.
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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ISP James
in fact i have to wonder if people will even design or will we have computers that are capable of finding newer better cheaper ways of producing better product designs.
In a way we already do.

We are able to run simulations on mainframe or superclusters that EVOLVE a design.

Say for example I read recently on a news site they were looking into finding a stronger form of silk. So they input all the knew about silk and told the computer what they were looking for as results. The computer then took that info, and made a new design. Then virtually tested it. It failed so it made a new design, tested it, it was better but still didn't meet the requirements. Then again... and again.. and again. I think it took them 10 days and about 20 "generations" of this but they found a new design for the protiens that make up silk and they now have a fomula for silk that is twice as strong, cheaper, finer, and lighter. We evolved in 10 days what mother nature took millions of years.

They are now using this same evolving process for new circuit designs. New ways of making chemicals. New designs that are just a little bit stronger or lighter or better in some way.

Only down side is that it takes tremendous amounts of power and processing ability to do this.
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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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my P4EE can handle it
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