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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by axemansean
Well who made God, physics states you cannot create or destroy matter so who made God.
haha, science vs. religion. kinda offtopic, but in my philosophy class i learned that descartes made some kind of compromise between the Church and science.

wonderful things that i will need to know. woot.. i love school


anyways, this thread is getting too serious for me to compete with, so i will just do you guys a favor and shut my mouth
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DB7 2.0
yay for this kind of thread
Well tough luck with on topic gone we can't do these discussions in a civil fashion. Also HAN is starting to get a bit more serious so you'll see more topics like this.

Back to the topic at hand.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DB7 2.0
yay for this kind of thread

i miss on topic where it moved much more slowly. plus there i could ignore it, but when its in the basement....they just call to me...

AHHH I CAN'T ESCAPE THEIR POWER! MUST.........DEBATE.......ISSUES...

ok i tried to lighten it up a bit
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RB26DETT
haha, science vs. religion. kinda offtopic, but in my philosophy class i learned that descartes made some kind of compromise between the Church and science.

wonderful things that i will need to know. woot.. i love school
Still off topic:

Science defies religion, much of the scriptures have been proven wrong and I made a thread about that a while back. Its down to one or the other, you can either believe what is being proven everyday in the field of science or you can believe the words of someone who none of us have met. I prefer the former because I have the resources to go out and test the theories the scientists are proving.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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Okay... so... Creationism... originaly taught the world is roughly only 6000 years old. (Yeah.. THAT'S believable) Then.. a few people actually did the smart thing and actually began to agree with science.. and started the idea that the whole "7 days" thing could actually be a span of millions of years.

Okay.

So.. then.. it's been questioned.. that plants and other forms of non creature life were created on the "4thday" And then those same 6000 years people believe that... on that 5th day.. the sun was created so those plants and what no and whatever else could survive.

How did all those plants survive those millions of years until the "5th day"?


Yeah... see... sorry... I'm so not buying that.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RB26DETT
haha, science vs. religion. kinda offtopic, but in my philosophy class i learned that descartes made some kind of compromise between the Church and science.

wonderful things that i will need to know. woot.. i love school


anyways, this thread is getting too serious for me to compete with, so i will just do you guys a favor and shut my mouth

he did. it was kinda tough at his time, people just didn't not believe in god then. many famous scientists around his time did the same thing. even galileo was a religious man. he didn't compromise science and religion, but he wasn't trying to shatter religion either.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 07:32 PM
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like i said earlier no matter what you beleive theres still that beginning part that is open for interpretation...whered god come from? or where did the thing that started life come from?..now that i thought about it..both kinda rely on making your own inferences :dunno:
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by EriksShadow
So.. then.. it's been questioned.. that plants and other forms of non creature life were created on the "4thday" And then those same 6000 years people believe that... on that 5th day.. the sun was created so those plants and what no and whatever else could survive.

How did all those plants survive those millions of years until the "5th day"?


Yeah... see... sorry... I'm so not buying that.
Originally Posted by qtiger
Oh that reminds me of a hilarious Chick tract. He argues that Genesis must be literal because plants were created on day 3 and the sun was created on day 4. Therefore, the plants would have died if the time periods were longer than a day. :lmfao:

Evidently he missed the whole "let there be light" part. :loco:

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Originally Posted by EriksShadow
Then.. a few people actually did the smart thing and actually began to agree with science.. and started the idea that the whole "7 days" thing could actually be a span of millions of years.
i'm really positive that someone told me that the bible in its original form says "a period of time" instead of "days".
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 07:33 PM
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oh and before you leave RB26DETT, just think about this stuff. i'm not saying for you to change your beliefs or anything, just try and think objectively about everything you are told. its a good thing to learn, and seriously will help you out in life (and thats not just for religion)
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by EriksShadow
So.. then.. it's been questioned.. that plants and other forms of non creature life were created on the "4thday" And then those same 6000 years people believe that... on that 5th day.. the sun was created so those plants and what no and whatever else could survive.

How did all those plants survive those millions of years until the "5th day"?
"Let there be light" comes to mind.

I think Christianity through its insistence on a strict interpretation of the bible on issues such as creationism, has set up a conflict between science and people that understand science have a tendency to fight back.

All I'm saying is that not everyone that is willing to believe that creation as explained in the bible is stuck on an exact literal following of the words on the page.
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